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Michael wrote: ".....i had never messed with the "band" buttons in the past but with a bit of experimentaion this turns out to be a very useful tool, kept me off the streets for an evening!.....so make a loop and send it into the MO and change up the "band" buttons and see what happens.....perhaps i'm the last person to discover this, if so, i'm sorry to waste your time but if you haven't played with this, give it a shot, you may find it useful....." Yeah, equalization is a really powerful sculptor of sound. Frankly, I'm surprised that more stomp box pedals aren't made that just have interesting twists on equalizing things in real time. There is a dearth of equalizers that can be used rhythmically in real time. I used to record a constantly swelling , dark, deep 20" crash cymbal into my Electrix Repeater and then turn the volume off, radically switch it's eq on my Mackie 1402VLZ board and then swell the sounds up just to mute them on downbeats. It's a great and simple effect and gives one, in essence, a constant 'noise' source to play with rhythmically. I especially love that the Electrix MoFX and Filter Factory had huge drum machine style buttons, intended to be hammered on that would either mute the effect when it was turned on, or temporarily turn the effect on when it was turned off. There's an endless source of 'drummistic' possibilities to be had by rhythmically playing an effect in this way. I was sad that the Electrix EQ killer was never made into a larger unit with that type of functionality. Usually melodic instrumentalists don't explore this kind of territory because it precludes being able to play your axe with two hands but when you put the effect after your looper then it's a great trick to use, especially if you have a 2nd looper later in your chain. Currently, I"m running a DL4 at the start of my pedal board , a DL4 at the end (for resampling or using as a digital delay) and then all of that into the Looperlative for major mangling. In between, I have my DOD Buzz Box and my Zvez Fuzz Factory and frequently I just toggle these rhythmically with my feet to create cool new rhythmic loops. In fact, in my Aether Engine, noise and rhythm project which I'm debuting live this coming Monday (boy, am I nervous!!) I'm mostly using distortion, EQ and rhythm to make the lions share of the music. I allowed myself a marching bass drum and a marching snare drum and some assorted pieces of metal to augment my Strat and my Robelli 12 string electric bass guitar. Let's hear it for equalization.