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At the risk of adding more confusion that clarification, I'll say what i'd do, which is to wring out the noise and distortion systematically from the first stage to the last. you are navigating between the Scylla and Charybdis of noise and distortion. if any input level to any device is too high, it will overdrive the input and cause distortion. if it's too low, then the receiving device will have to over-amplify the signal, and will amplify the noise floor as well, causing, well, noise to be more evident. the output level of your guitar might be treated a little differently, as in some setups it is deliberately used to overdrive the next stage, so you might want an optimal clean setup with your guitar output set to 7 or 8. i don't usually do things this way, but Eddie Van Halen probably would. So, first, I'd hook up guitar to Vortex, put the guitar vol where you like it, and try to check that I had an optimal signal coming out the Vortex (primarily by adjusting the input gain control on the vortex). of course, to listen to the vortex means that you have to put it's output into a mixer or something, so you need to make sure that you're not over-or-under-driving the input of the mixer by fiddling with the Vortex output. but your vortex output settings may change when you insert the next item in the chain. after you've got this stage optimized, write down the vortex input gain setting - this will not change. then insert one more device between vortex and mixer. turn input gain on new device down, turn vortex output up to max, or to somewhere in the 7-8 range (a lot of device seem to operate best around there for some reason) and see whether you've overdriven the new input. adjust the input gain on the new device up until you hear distortion at the output. keep moving forward. i'm sure people will find ways to pick this apart, but this kind of methodology has stood me in good stead. Warren