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[S V G] > Just because the mock-up didn't convince you... doesn't mean that it > wasn't almost ready. As I said in my previous post, the Virtual > Repeater was very close to being finished... and I'm close to those > who have inside information. Perhaps. But here's what I don't get. If it was "almost ready" then it doesn't take hundreds or even tens of thousands of dollars to finish and distribute. If you've got programmers committed to the project they'll make it happen. Sales weren't going to give Adam and the other two principals a nice salary but what the heck, get it out there and recoup at least some of your expenses. This is of course pure speculation but something is fishy. Some likely possibilities: 1) They never had anything and did the classic vaporware play hoping for an enthusiastic response they didn't get. 2) They grossly underestimated how hard it was going to be to port firmware designed for custom hardware to a general computer OS with all the associated UI, performance, plugin hosting, and latency issues. It wasn't even half done. 3) They outsourced the development to relatively disinterested programmers with no financial stake in the product's success. Once the contractor money dried up, there was no one left that knew how to finish it. 4) There were really almost done but ugly internal politics shelved the project and the code rights now reside with one of the principals that doesn't know what to do with it. If the situation was close to 3 or 4 then give them my name. I'll finish it for them for a reasonable fee. I'm not bashing them, there were clearly some brilliant people involved in the company over the years. But their marketing and communication, bordering on arrogance, is among the worst I've ever seen. This isn't rocket science, lots of people can make loopers. Jeff