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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Can it change time signature mid song??? Good question! I did not know so I checked the Live 8 manual and it says: "Live's time signature can be changed at any point in the Arrangement by using time signature markers." "In many ways, time signature markers look and function like locators; they can be moved with the mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their value can be changed using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with the Ctrl R (PC) / R (Mac) shortcut). They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or via delete commands in the Edit and Create menus. " However, it seems all this applies to the arrange view and I guess most loopists prefer running Live by the mixer view. But as long as you are only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or midi clips in Live - you can always change to any time signature by adjusting your looper's resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it draws on the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 (as an eight note resolution for quantized loop manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use to set it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value for more granular resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 for 7/8 etc etc) --> Bottom line: If you stick with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time signature by adjusting the quantize value (either globally or in Looper). Your favorite quantize values can be mapped to a MIDI button hand pad on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign the same MIDI button hand pad to the relating time signatures (as we know, version 1.7 can instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature - odd, odder or not at all odd) Per