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He, he... I flew in feeling like a precious Early Bird but got washed out like a Guinea Pig! ;-)) I just noticed this bug and wonder if anyone else have noticed? When recording a live input into the Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the overdubbing is stopped as soon as I start an empty "dummy" audio clip with clip envelopes to model Looper's parameter Speed. Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if opening the MIDI Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter Speed and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0". The idea here is of course to set another MIDI note to match the next pitch in the scale - and so on for each half note step (gosh, wish it could also follow MIDI Notes!) The bottom line is that the two most immediate ways of playing the loop tonally from external MIDI is out of order. Wondering how that could pass the beta program... The best way to loop in Live 8 seems to use Looper as a silent dummy in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then duplicate the same external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party looping plug-in as Mobius or Augustus Loop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com