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Luis, > I see a lot of you guys using the Behringer BCR usb controllers in >conjunction with Mobius,since i am new to software looping what do you >use it mostly for or what cool things can you do with it that you > cannot otherwise do with a MFC? quick answer: have a total of 20 pushbuttons and 32 continuous controllers (four of them with push functionality) available at once. The reason I got the BCR2000 in the first place was to be able to control lots of parameters. Like all of the parameters of my Live setup, plus all of the plugins' parameters...you get the picture. More specifically with Mobius, I control all those transport functions with the MFC, while I use the BCR more as a software mixing console for Mobius, using one row of knobs (you see it has eight columns of knobs, so this fits) for track volume, the next one for (primary and secondary) feedback, then to top it off with track pan - and use the two rows of buttons for track select/mute respectively. In my old Live setup, I used a total of seventeen "pages" (of 108 controls each) for a total of about 1800 controller assignments - the trombone-based one had considerably less with about 1300 (which is still way too much to do it intuitively - but it concentrates everything of importance on like four "pages", so it's possible to keep track of it in your mind). > then there is the bcr and bcf 2000 it seems you have both? The BCF2000 (which has motorized faders and knobs, instead of the myriad of knobs) is used in one of its emulation modes as a fake-MackieControl with my recording setup - which works surprisingly well in a two-monitor setup together with the software onscreen-emulation of the MackieControl's display. Rainer