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also the fact that you can also have separate "tracks" of different lengths at will instead of being always tighted up to a loop is a big advantage and not always so dependent on Multiply ! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 4:33 AM > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM, > L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > Yes i am also waiting for the mighty EDP like multiply > on Mobius! > > > Yup, I'd appreciate that too. But the bottom line for me is > that I'm > happy that, with Mobius, I got away an aspect of multiply > on the EDP > that always annoyed the shit out of me. I'm talking about > the Loop4 > now, not Loop3: When you want to cut down the length of a > loop with > Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too > short time > between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want > to tell it > that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles" > (equaling the > number of erroneous Multiply kicks given too quickly. There > was no way > to call off that action on the EDP - you were forced to > live with it. > In a live situation where you may work with a loop of two > minutes > length this would result in a forced multiply for two more > minutes - > instead of the intended cutting down the loop to just one > cycle to > keep the musical flow up. I just hated that function and I > never found > out a way to disable it. > > So I must say that I'm generally more happy with the Mobius > way of > multiplying. I used to keep my own script that waits until > the next > cycle cusp before starting the Multiply, but since that > doesn't work > with the Lame Duck Period I have repelled back to stock > Mobius > multiplying now. I found that it is actually possible to > not have that > dreadful extra cycle added; you have to kick the Multiply > just a > fraction before the next quantize value and then you have > to go out of > Multiply Mode with Overdub. Someone on the Mobius list > posted that > advice. > > I also love the Instant Multiply/Devide. I always keep > pedals and hand > buttons for x2, x3 and x4. That makes it possible to cut > down or > increase loop lengths to musically interesting relations in > just a > second. My favorite is to copy a loop length, then go x3 > and then /2 > (or x4 and /3). Apply to one of two, or more, parallel > loops for poly > rhythm cooking. ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > >