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the EDP is just.... addictive! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 4/25/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: Looperlative vs EDP > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: "Matthias Grob" <matigrob@gmail.com> > Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:45 AM > > andy wrote > >> On the other hand the EDP has a much more > interactive/organic user interface, > >> with an extensive catalog of user tricks possible > with just 7 multi-function buttons. > Bob Amstadt wrote: > > Organic? I think the EDP is wonderful device but > I found its user interface to be anything but organic. > There is definitely a learning curve to the unit. I > think the reality is that you guys have been using the EDP > for so long that it has become second nature to you, but it > is not an easy device for somebody new to it. > > Well, I don't know why organic should equate with easy, in > any case > the EDP isn't exactly difficult to for a beginner. > Perhaps I should explain what I find organic about it. > Handily the *really easy* buttons are marked Record, > Overdub. > From those 2 buttons you can > 1) Record your loop, going directly into Overdub, or not. > 2) Overdub by switching it on/off or hold down for duration > of Overdub > 3) Re-Record the loop starting with a single press > 4) Erase the loop. > So that's an incredibly neat implementation of 2 buttons. > Obviously, the EDP has 7 standard buttons, which is > probably > 3 or 4 buttons more than "easy"....but there's no > need to > learn them all at once. If you do learn them, they turn > out > to be just as well thought out as the first 2. > The EDP is based on the principle that it's easy to start > with, > but offers options to be explored. Matthias deliberately > left > open every possible option for exploration, thinking that > *someone* might want to use it, the exact opposite of a > Roland/Boss > type approach. > It's the well thought out interface that makes the edp > organic, > (as well as the fact it doesn't define the start/end of the > loop > if you don't want it to..it's cyclic). The EDP isn't > designed > to create an easy way to play your old music, it's designed > for > the creation of new music that wouldn't exist otherwise. > > > > > >> Apart from the EDP > slice'n'dice/loopwindow/SUSfunction madness, > > > > This is one of the items that you'll always have to > get an EDP if you want to do it. I have no intention > of recreating this. It is a beautiful accident. > > In the loop3 software, Loopwindowing was an accident, then > became deliberate > and improved in loop4. > All the other EDP madness is designed in, some of it at the > suggestion > of LDers like Andre Lafosse. > > > > > Certainly I'll continue to add new and cool features > to the LP1, but it is not an EDP clone nor did I ever intend > it to be. > > I'd always imagined it started as 8 stereo DL4s in a box. > > > My recommendation is buy one of each. They are > different animals and both very cool. > > I reckon the Looperlative is the looper of choice for > anyone who can afford it, > unless the EDP concept draws them in. > > > > > Bob Amstadt > > Looperlative Audio Products > > > andy > Kind of Involved in EDP Type Stuff on Occasion >