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Re: Looperlative vs EDP




the EDP is just.... addictive!

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--- On Sat, 4/25/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Looperlative  vs EDP
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Cc: "Matthias Grob" <matigrob@gmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:45 AM
> > andy wrote
> >> On the other hand the EDP has a much more
> interactive/organic user interface,
> >> with an extensive catalog of user tricks possible
> with just 7 multi-function buttons.
> Bob Amstadt wrote: 
> > Organic?  I think the EDP is wonderful device but
> I found its user interface to be anything but organic. 
> There is definitely a learning curve to the unit.  I
> think the reality is that you guys have been using the EDP
> for so long that it has become second nature to you, but it
> is not an easy device for somebody new to it.
> 
> Well, I don't know why organic should equate with easy, in
> any case
> the EDP isn't exactly difficult to for a beginner.
> Perhaps I should explain what I find organic about it.
> Handily the *really easy* buttons are marked Record,
> Overdub.
> From those 2 buttons you can
> 1) Record your loop, going directly into Overdub, or not.
> 2) Overdub by switching it on/off or hold down for duration
> of Overdub
> 3) Re-Record the loop starting with a single press
> 4) Erase the loop.
> So that's an incredibly neat implementation of 2 buttons.
> Obviously, the EDP has 7 standard buttons,  which is
> probably
> 3 or 4 buttons more than "easy"....but there's no
> need  to
> learn them all at once. If you do learn them, they turn
> out
> to be just as well thought out as the first 2.
> The EDP is based on the principle that it's easy to start
> with,
> but offers options to be explored. Matthias deliberately
> left
> open every possible option for exploration, thinking that
> *someone* might want to use it, the exact opposite of a
> Roland/Boss
> type approach.
> It's the well thought out interface that makes the edp
> organic,
> (as well as the fact it doesn't define the start/end of the
> loop
> if you don't want it to..it's cyclic). The EDP isn't
> designed
> to create an easy way to play your old music, it's designed
> for
> the creation of new music that wouldn't exist otherwise.
> 
> 
> > 
> >> Apart from the EDP
> slice'n'dice/loopwindow/SUSfunction madness,
> > 
> > This is one of the items that you'll always have to
> get an EDP if you want to do it.  I have no intention
> of recreating this.  It is a beautiful accident.
> 
> In the loop3 software, Loopwindowing was an accident, then
> became deliberate
> and improved in loop4.
> All the other EDP madness is designed in, some of it at the
> suggestion
> of LDers like Andre Lafosse.
> 
> > 
> > Certainly I'll continue to add new and cool features
> to the LP1, but it is not an EDP clone nor did I ever intend
> it to be.  
> 
> I'd always imagined it started as 8 stereo DL4s in a box.
> 
> > My recommendation is buy one of each.  They are
> different animals and both very cool.
> 
> I reckon the Looperlative is the looper of choice for
> anyone who can afford it,
> unless the EDP concept draws them in.
> 
> > 
> > Bob Amstadt
> > Looperlative Audio Products
> > 
> andy
> Kind of Involved in EDP Type Stuff on Occasion  
>