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-cpr said: > I had a crash (actually a 'hang') on my LP1... but, that device >certainly blurs the line between software and hardware.. lol.. > I think the dividing line should actually be 'stand alone looper' vs >'computer based looper'... And that would put the line where? Standalone loopers are time lag accumulators and Echoplex Tape Delays, computer-based loopers is everything else? - so generally, I would assume that everyone at the festival was computer based... ;) (I would be willing to accept digitech's pds/rds devices into the standalone category, but that's about it). Embrace the fact: almost everything you're using today to process signals (with the exception of most distortion pedals) is computer-based. Rainer