Re: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno

[Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>]

Richard very well put and that's pretty much how should be too me.

For several years except one I've released records on same feel and
'finaless' of a gesture drawing and they've not been perfect but
spontaneous.  One recent cd I overworked though and was reaching that
pointof 'no longer fun'.  I fianlly let it go and though it turned out
well I know that I labored too long with it.

I spend a lot of time these days over at ImprovFriday and the core of
our weekend new music thread events is most often first takes and
wonderfully spontaneous.

Agreed good topic.

Jim

On 7/31/10, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> For me and most of the artists/producers/engineers I know, records are 
>never
> finished, they're abandoned.
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> I think, for me, the beauty of what Eno is saying was well expressed by 
>that
> country guy who said 'You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold
> 'em.'
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> There is always self censoring to some degree or you're not a good 
>musician.
>  Miles obviously was 'self censored' enough that he learned to play the
> trumpet like none before him.  Same, obviously for Prince and Picasso.
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> So I would guess Eno is thinking relatively, not absolutely.
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> It is fun to go back to old work and figuring out what you were trying to
> say and finally nailing it.
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> The fine line between self censoring and becoming better is all about
> knowing when to let it go.  For me, the final call is when it REALLY 
>stops
> being fun.
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> That's when I fold 'em... and either release it or let it incubate till
> another day... or decade...
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> Inspiring post, Rick!  Thanks
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> R
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> On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:
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>> I enjoy everyone's thoughts on this. I happen to love Eno's work and can
>> appreciate what he's saying. I found it to be more about a humble
>> confidence in one's work/abilities insofar as one can 
>play/compose/record
>> and be done without too much looking back. For me personally, I find my
>> literary endeavors have a much greater degree of self censorship and/or
>> editing. I will return to pieces written 25 years ago, thinking then 
>they
>> were perfect, and edit the hell out of them and THEN think they are
>> perfect. Maybe I'll be re-visiting them again at 70 for another go 
>around.
>> J.D.
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>> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:50:48 -0700
>> > From: looppool@cruzio.com
>> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> > Subject: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno
>> >
>> > Derek Sivers who used to own CD Baby put up a wonderful
>> > site of quotations about music and art.
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>> > http://musicthoughts.com/cat/1
>> >
>> > Amongst many others, I love this quote from Brian Eno.
>> > It encapsulates so much of why I love looped music and music that
>> > contains repetition.
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