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Re: OT: old skool listening

Wiki isn't complete on this one, of course, but despite the Irish claim to be such a 'musical people', slide guitar wasn't brought over from Ireland.  Slide guitar is traceable on many accounts to one-stringed African instruments, and emerged in the US as far back as 1900 (as far as academia is concerned).  While there's little doubt that at times white folks have filtered things in their own way, most likely we're talking about violin/fiddle work when it comes to the drifting/stretching fingering.

Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: OT: old skool listening

Thanks for posting this, interesting that you think this is a crossover Per, in a way I hear you, and certainly the slide guitar sounds seems from somewhere else, but when I was watching this it reminded me so much of many of the reels and hornpipes that we would hear as children in the south west of England. Ive never thought of it before, as Irish music is so.. er Irish.. but Im wondering whether my view of Irish is defined by The Pogues and the Titanic soundtrack only (insert any celtic-esque film/sound-scape here).

Does any one know? Maybe there is an underlying root from English Reels (could be Scottish maybe in origin) that crossed the water with the Irish sea workers (the Irish were for centuries the "workers" of the British Isles and built most of the trains/ships and buildings) and merge with country and blues? What of Bluegrass, hasnt that got a simerlar er.. tempo (out of depth here...)

The somewhat country voice that the singer has (is that Tyminski) could easily be replaced with a dulcit West-country drawl from England, and be a very typical "country reel". I was often at barn dances as a kid, ( I even played in a Barn Dance Band once... The Scarecrows ha ha!) and this music really seems to have sunk in.... only to be squashed by Rock later in life...

weird... something came back to me... have to check this out a bit...

thanks for posting... hairs on back of neck standing to attention...


On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:34 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:
> A composer friend of mine who studied with Messiaen sent me this link, he is
> a big fan of  Tyminski and Douglas:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24_vRRCvlhg

What a funny mix of styles! I love it! :-))  I guess this is "made
up"; there can't be any existing style like this? I keep hearing
echoes from Delta Blues, Country and Irish.  "Crossover is the new
folk" ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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mark francombe
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