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Heck that guy will never make it!!! It dont really what kinda box we beat on, 90% of audiences dont have a clue. Now what I always wanted to do is a combination, and put drum triggers on stuff in my show like: Dead cats Live armadillo Skillet Bloody halloween head Jar of mayonaise But you gotta remember thats from a guy who's newest band name might be Afraid to Fart, so I'm kinda weird. Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote: > Ok bro,something still intrigues me though,in Antwerp after my show > you said to me that my performance was nice but you wish i hadnt use > canned loops,then you realized after seeing my video that i had done > it all myself and you were amazed. > Which tell me that the musical end result from the rhytmic perspective > was now only acepted because i had done it with my mouth. > Yet you really liked Margaret Nobles performance but she used analog > grooves coming from the Jomox drum machine to accompany her looping. > > Soooo my question is: > if i use a drum machine should it only be strange and abstract for it > to be accepted by loopers? > should loopers not use drum machine grooves even if u program them >yourself? > should a drum machine be only used for production but not for live >looping? > should a drum machine better stay home and be banned for live looping? > should we not use the midi sync functions from looping devices like > the EDP and Mobius to operate with groove boxes? > should loopers be not allowed to dance? > shoulkd we egg this scientlogy guy for using a drum machine live and > never let him into our loopers cult? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l3_gwIOTGI&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4yt3rH6lcQ&feature=related > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >>> >>> I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for >30 >>> minutes, if the shit is good! :-) >> >> Yeah, Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping >single >> song that just builds and builds >> with intensity. It's just very rare in my experience. It's >just my >> aesthetic so I don't mean to try and >> convince everyone of it, but too much canned shit loses me, emotionally >> when I listen to a live looper >> even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. If a >> musician is creatively engaging the audience >> with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last >> loopfestival performances) I don't think it is >> destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. >> Honestly, I think most live loopers >> fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom >in >> such a case. Of course, >> performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a >> performance. In other words, >> though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly >important in >> a performance, I honestly don't think it >> is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience >standpoint. >> NOT a musicians' standpoint. >> >> In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of >> different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to >small >> or large band performances in many different >> genres), I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part >of a >> musical performance and it's effectiveness. >> Visual presentation, audience interaction, even lighting and >multi-media >> presentation can have a huge effect on >> audience response. >> >> Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but >I've >> taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the looping >> festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot can be >> garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn't. > It >> shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers >> decisions........indeed, >> sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate an >> audience or to challenge them with >> new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch. >> >> Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of >> each looping festival >> has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience >engaged. >> >> It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, >who >> uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice >> for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to >> bottom. She takes a long time to build her >> loops, too. but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her >> performances, despite being some of the >> lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival. >> >> >