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 New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. 
  Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com 
 
 
 On 14 Feb 2011, at 10:36, Doc Rossi wrote: Dubstep is avant garde?
 
 On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>  wrote:   Thing is most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by 14 year olds via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire write about it. 
 The real Avant Garde is out there, it just don't need us :) On 14 Feb 2011, at 10:14, andy butler wrote: William Walker wrote: 
 .Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? discuss... Bill
 
  perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed since the 1950's 
  andy 
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