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I have to second this. I've migrated to Abletn since I was asked to teach it at college and it's been a revelation to me. Rock stable and well laid out, (even if it won't win any beauty pageants). The looper is excellent and pretty much all controlled from 1 pedal - that's well thought out. I'm turning some students on to looping this semester and they're lapping it up. We're synching to Arkaos for visuals too - the combination is intuitve and deep - not easy to achieve.. Peace G Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:09:57 +0100 > Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the > basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little > looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! > it has all the important stuff you need,record,multiply,overdub,pitch > shift,feedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into > ableton perfectly in sync. > Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn > function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller > You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well,so > imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you > have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create > arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like > delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! > So now that you have all that enchilada going,just push record in > ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in > realtime by turning things on and off etc. > Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with > mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little > looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of > x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like > looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. > Try it! > Luis > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote: > > So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/could > > just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight > > record audio post analog effects? > > > > > > > > Ao > > > > > > > > From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig > > > > > > > > well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with fx > > plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobius > > inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i > > gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the > > clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be > > quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> > > wrote: > > > > Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing > > of this ableton of which you speak" > > > > > > > > My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for > > running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an > > example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or > > more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect > > issues oozing to the surface.... > > > > Thanks > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > |