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Re: OT Fretless makers



Anyone using West System 123 marine epoxy?
I'm told this should be among the best epoxies for such uses..
/van


tim echols wrote:
> how long did you let the epoxy dry?  is it a regular epoxy or boat epoxy?
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> time
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> --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
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>>From: Toby Graves <carpet8@mac.com>
>>Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM
>>Interesting thing I'm seeing:  I
>>get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really
>>smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief
>>on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the
>>fret lines.
>>
>>toby
>>
>>
>>On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote:
>>
>>
>>>tim echols wrote:
>>>
>>>>we never had any problem with the epoxy or super
>>
>>glue not sticking to the fingerboard.  i play bass, so
>>i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous
>>roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string
>>that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because
>>someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better
>>than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in
>>the slots or finished the neck.  i am having to stop
>>myself from playing because it is marking up the neck
>>considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that
>>would dig in. but i did find this:
>>
>>>>http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html
>>>>seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based
>>
>>finishing.  hope it helps.
>>
>>>>time
>>>
>>>
>>>Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed
>>
>>among my saved list over there.
>>
>>>
>>>>--- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
>>>>>Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
>>>>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM
>>>>>An even better approach may be gluing
>>>>>a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've
>>
>>heard some say
>>
>>>>>it's the best material, superceeding ebony and
>>
>>epoxy
>>
>>>>>coatings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like
>>
>>material,
>>
>>>>>bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard
>>
>>material. It can be processed/sanded.
>>
>>>>>Only the phenylic filled, pressure
>>
>>treated/compressed wood
>>
>>>>>used by Zon basses should be better.
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge,
>>
>>so some sunny
>>
>>>>>day.. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil
>>
>>filled)
>>
>>>>>fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've
>>
>>heard they
>>
>>>>>have a product which should bond well to oily
>>
>>surfaces.
>>
>>>>>/van
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Toby Graves wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to
>>
>>the surface
>>
>>>>>of the  fretboard when I've tried
>>
>>it.  I've only
>>
>>>>>filled in slots with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>toby
>>>>>>On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin
>>
>>Cheli-Colando
>>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello again,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So I've pulled the frets on my guitar
>>
>>and filled
>>
>>>>>in the frets with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>epoxy.  As soon as it dries I'll
>>
>>be sanding
>>
>>>>>them down and lowering the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>nut.  My question to all you
>>
>>DIYers who may
>>
>>>>>have done this yourself,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>did you leave the fretboard as is
>>
>>after you sanded
>>
>>>>>the frets down
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>again or did you cover the neck in
>>
>>epoxy and
>>
>>>>>smooth that down?  I've
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>seen it both ways and I thought I'd
>>
>>get opinions
>>
>>>>>from this august body
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>of experimenters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kevin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- Till now you seriously considered
>>
>>yourself to
>>
>>>>>be the body and to  have a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>form. That is the primal ignorance
>>
>>which is the
>>
>>>>>root cause of all  trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
>>>>>>>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- rgds,
>>>>>van Sinn
>>>
>>>
>>>--rgds,
>>>van Sinn
>>>
>>
>>
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-- 
rgds,
van Sinn