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the marine epoxy takes a bit longer to dry, and as far as i know no epoxy is self-leveling. the regular stuff should dry in a day. we would never use less than 2 coats, drying in between, and had to selectively apply a third layer to any areas that were not covered well, so it generally took 3 days, then a fourth to sand and polish. you need to be very aware of the evenness of the epoxy only if you are going to lower the action accordingly, in my experience. you can buff out most irregularities, but i prefer 2 good solid layers, one for the initial coating and one for the surface that will be buffed down. --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote: > From: Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 4:03 PM > I let it dry at least 24 hours. > It's the normal stuff you get at a hardware > store, nothing special. > > toby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tim echols" <eekamouse67@yahoo.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > > > how long did you let the epoxy dry? is it a regular > epoxy or boat epoxy? > > > time > > --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves <carpet8@mac.com> > wrote: > > > From: Toby Graves <carpet8@mac.com> > > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM > > Interesting thing I'm seeing: I > > get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really > > smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some > relief > > on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel > the > > fret lines. > > > > toby > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: > > > > > tim echols wrote: > > >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or > super > > glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so > > i have no choice but to finish my neck or the > monstrous > > roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a > 5string > > that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop > because > > someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, > better > > than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not > filled in > > the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop > > myself from playing because it is marking up the neck > > considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato > that > > would dig in. but i did find this: > > >> >http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html > > >> seems like it describes a step-by-step > vespa-based > > finishing. hope it helps. > > >> time > > > > > > > > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but > missed > > among my saved list over there. > > > > > > > > >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> > > wrote: > > >>> From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> > > >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > > >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM > > >>> An even better approach may be gluing > > >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; > I've > > heard some say > > >>> it's the best material, superceeding > ebony and > > epoxy > > >>> coatings. > > >>> > > >>> Trespa is made of layers of a > cardboard-like > > material, > > >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very > hard > > material. It can be processed/sanded. > > >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure > > treated/compressed wood > > >>> used by Zon basses should be better. > > >>> > > >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an > urge, > > so some sunny > > >>> day.. ;) > > >>> > > >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still > oil > > filled) > > >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; > I've > > heard they > > >>> have a product which should bond well to > oily > > surfaces. > > >>> > > >>> /van > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Toby Graves wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to > stick to > > the surface > > >>> > > >>> of the fretboard when I've tried > > it. I've only > > >>> filled in slots with it. > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> toby > > >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin > > Cheli-Colando > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>> Hello again, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my > guitar > > and filled > > >>> > > >>> in the frets with > > >>> > > >>>>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll > > be sanding > > >>> > > >>> them down and lowering the > > >>> > > >>>>> nut. My question to all you > > DIYers who may > > >>> > > >>> have done this yourself, > > >>> > > >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as > is > > after you sanded > > >>> > > >>> the frets down > > >>> > > >>>>> again or did you cover the neck > in > > epoxy and > > >>> > > >>> smooth that down? I've > > >>> > > >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought > I'd > > get opinions > > >>> > > >>> from this august body > > >>> > > >>>>> of experimenters. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Kevin > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- Till now you seriously > considered > > yourself to > > >>> > > >>> be the body and to have a > > >>> > > >>>>> form. That is the primal > ignorance > > which is the > > >>> > > >>> root cause of all trouble. > > >>> > > >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- rgds, > > >>> van Sinn > > > > > > > > > --rgds, > > > van Sinn > > > > > > > > > > > > >