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Well this sounds just lovely. Especially Mark's notion of weaving the rhythmic in and out of longer pads... expression pedal to control mix... and midi for time... yum :) On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> I've been tempted to put together a DD-20 followed by an SL-20 to do >> long ambient loops that can then be rhythmatized, but having an M13, it >> seems like a better choice just to stick with that unless someone can >> convince me that the SL-20 is too amazing to pass up particularly given >> that the M13 supports half-speed and reverse. > They are really such different beasts and different approaches. To me, > aesthetically, they are not even comparable (and the DD-20 is a really > great pedal, imho, though I don't own it). > > I think the SL-20 is very, very hip, myself. > > There are also a lot of what I would call "Kotekan" rhythms in the box > (thanks to Andy Butler for that term) > which slice into even 'sub pulse' rhythms (or, straight 16ths or > triplet 16ths) and if you use the > random slicing feature with a dummy plug in one channel, the randomized > left and right panning that occurs will > throw out random rhythmic groupings that have a 'sub pulse' as a basis. > > This allows one to just listen and loop the results if you want > something besides the 100 or so preset rhythms that are included in the > box. > > Additionally it has what I wish all pedals had, a dry mix and an > effected mix which can be mixed and matched. > > This allows one to slowly morph a rubato ambient loop, subtly into a > pumping square wave styled rhythmic loop. > The unit also allows for someone to change the attack fo the wave form > and length of the slices which can be very, very > interesting to morph a very soft feeling rhythm into a very hard , > square wave rhythm. > > I really did the SL-2 and know nothing else that does what it does, > though I also love the > GIG FX Chopper pedal which does other intersting (and polyrhtyhmic) > tremelos that can be mixed with pannings at > different rates. > > rick walker >