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On second thoughts I may have to find the money. I just flicked through the manual and this thing looks better than I expected. Plenty of decent delay models (including a nice tape delay with wow and flutter) which can be routed pre or post the 30 second stereo looper, the entire unit can be controlled via midi, the looper can play in the background while you continue to to tweak the delays, and it even has midi clock sync. -m