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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hmm interesting Matt, some thoughts.. i imagined that the issue would be > "live" since i do not play an instrument.. But you do! Isn't the Octatrack an instrument? Seems so to me at least. > The difference is basically that loopers sample in a manner similar to > tape > loops while a sampler usually don't try to mimic and old manipulated tape > recorder I think that's a too harsh generalization! There not much similar to tape loop manipulation in this looping performance: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/glitchdub_flute_solo.mp3 Well, maybe cut-up tape techniques, but in Mobius here there is no smooth speed shift as with tape since the looper quantizes to half notes (he, he... try doing that with a tape loop) And both the big classics, the EDP and the Repeater, differ a lot from the tape idiom. But I would agree that the tape loop context is a little bit closer if looking at the Roland loopers. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen