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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM, georg hartmann <georghartman@gmail.com> wrote: > So you use the "internal" pitch shifting? No. I use rate shifting. A completely different thing, both technically and musically. In the Mobius looper there are both Pitch Shift and Rate Shift available. Pitch Shift also applies time-stretch algorithms to the loop and this is not working well for real-time audio as live looping is all about. It takes too much time for the computer to calculate and imply the new loop length and the result is a process much slower and lousy sounding. On the other hand, going with Rate Shift (as is my choice) gives you instant access to any pitch at a good fidelity but you'll have to deal with the fact that loops take on a new length with each new speed/transposition. This post was a little more detailed version. Hope it makes sense. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen