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I see your point, Teddy. For me it works in a noisy impro setting where trashy conflicts is part of the band sound. If playing slick funk guitar I would not say I could use that trick. I'd rather not loop in that style ;-) Per On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Teddy Kumpel <teddykumpel@mac.com> wrote: > thanks Per, > > hmmmm, I wonder what that first one sounds like. I've tried that but it > always seemed like a lot of button pushing while playing with > questionable groove results. Do you have any examples of that approach? > > Any groove/funk/soul music people out there who wanna chime in? I'm not > really interested in how the ambient/surround sound people do it. > > Teddy > > On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Hi Teddy, >> >> I frequently play with live looping in a band situation and use two >> main approaches: >> >> 1) LOOPER AS TEMPO MASTER - NO SYNC >> Even though my looper allows several parallel loops of different >> length I do not sync it to anything. Nor do I send a click to the >> drummer. What I do is to make sure I always have immediate acces to a >> foot switch that instantly retriggers all loops from the top. I do run >> effects that tempo sync to the looper and use the good old EDP action >> to set a new tempo when needed: delete everything and start a new loop >> at the new tempo. This approach is good for free playing where you >> need to be as adaptable as possible. If the drummer doesn't follow >> your loop you can just make your loop follow the drummer etc. This >> approach is great fun for stream-of-consciousness gigs. >> >> 2) LOOPER AS TEMPO SLAVE - SYNC >> Myslef, my loopers/effects and everyone else in the band play at a pre >> defined tempo. Some parts may be pre recorded to run as backing tracks >> or to be triggered in sync by any of the players. This works well for >> me when doing surround sound concerts. Tempos of songs will be running >> even if you don't play. If needing to get the tempo to start with you >> can either look at a visual cue, make some noise into a tempo synced >> delay effect or simply just step on Record and make a non-rhythmic one >> bar loop (add some SUS Substitute points if needing a finer resolution >> "click"). Example: http://youtu.be/GawvbfwHgRE >> >> I've used these two approaches all the way back since the old >> EDP/Repeater Rack days until today's all-in-the-box laptop rig gigs. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Teddy Kumpel <teddykumpel@mac.com> >> wrote: >>> As I read all the posts on this list I'm starting to wonder.... Is >>> everyone here a solo artist? >>> >>> Does anyone use loops in a band context? >>> >>> If so, how? What are using? Do you only make ambient loops in the >>> band, or do you play rhythms? >>> If you play rhythms and there's a drummer how do you get locked up >>> with the drummer. >>> >>> I have my own solution, I've been doing it for 4 years now and I'm >>> happy with the results... I'm just wondering what other people do. >>> >>> thanks for chiming in >>> Teddy >>> >> >