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Last update of the evening and I'm done. I have isolated the problem to the messages the FCB is sending to Live. I have programmed the FCB to send a note on/off message ONLY. However, when I go to assign the pedal press in Live, the first press assigns the note value and a second press changes the assignment to a control value. The CC value that is sent seems to change according to the physical pedal and not the note assigned (I assigned the same note value to two pedals and got different CCs depending on which pedal I pressed). Did someone say there is a chip that eliminates this problem on the FCB. Oh yeah, and one last oddity then I really am done. I thought I might be able to control the problem by changing the global settings on the FCB so that notes were sent on channel 2 and everything else is sent on 1. I confirmed this was being received at the computer this way (note on 2, cc on 1) and configured the midi track for input only on channel 2. This did nothing to filter out the incoming cc message. Yep that does it, I have no clue how to solve this with the tools and wits at hand. Good night. Kevin (but you knew that by now didn't you)? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I'd say the most likely culprit here is the BCR 2000 that the > FCB is passing through. When I press the FCB sending Note messages, > another control message is sent on every second press (and the value > or label for that control changes from session No idea where they > are coming from and unless I can find a way to completely reset the > BCR and FCB to a completely blank state, I'm not sure what's next. > > Okay, that was just for the sake of accuracy in reporting. > > Carry on, > > Kevin > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote: >> Okay, so this is getting farther and farther afield from my having any >> clue what is going on with my arrangement of Mobius. >> >> So, tonight I decided to go back to zero and start forward with the >> advice I've gotten, most notably Jeff's walk through with the nanokey. >> I booted up, checked my midi stream with Midi Monitor and confirmed >> the FCB is sending Note on and off signals (I had programmed a new >> bank in the FCB with ONLY Note selected). >> >> Oh yes, I don't have a direct midi port connection with this >> arrangement. I am running the FCB Midi cable into a Behringer BCR2000 >> rotary controller which connects via USB. I have the BCR set to send >> incoming midi through. Strangely enough however, the Monitor only see >> data from the FCB, the BCR doesn't seem to be getting anything to the >> computer. >> >> So anyway, I started fresh in Live, created one audio track, one midi >> track, dropped Mobius in the audio and directed the midi to the audio >> and selected input from BCR 2000 on the midi channel. Then I opened >> the Midi Sync preferences. At the top there are five or so slots with >> control surface, input and output with BCR 2000 in each of them on one >> row. I ignored those for the most and went to the lower half of that >> screen where it had midi ports track, sync and remote with the BCR as >> an option then my audio interface sync port and output with the BCR. >> Following Jeff's advice, I made sure ONLY sync was on for the BCR >> input. However, when I did this, Live dids not recognize the incoming >> FCB via BCR signal. If I turn on the Remote box as well, Live can >> read the FCB/BCR. >> >> So, no Remote, no communication. >> >> Went out of live and confirmed that I can program the pedal directly >> to mobius and it runs fine. >> >> Came back to live and cleared the part of the Midi preferences with >> the controller surface in and out, moved all of them to none. Tried >> to program Mobius in live again and this time was able to record(!) >> but when I pressed record again, the loop stopped and disappeared. >> >> Is it possible to run Mobius outside of live and route it to the input >> of an audio track (or two). >> >> I don't know, I'm stumped. It requires that the remote box is checked >> with Jeff says that should be off, but when it is of, I get no midi >> signal. And do I need to worry about the control surface or midi >> output. >> >> One last thing, I programmed ther FCB to be sending ONLY note >> messages, nothing else was selected and yet every second press of the >> note button (so two pair of on/off messages) it was throwing a control >> message that had a label that seemed to change from session to >> session. Once it was mute all sound 15 (or other numbers). Earlier I >> was registering it as a portamento control. The BCR isn't registering >> any of its own button presses or dial turns in the Monitor so these >> only come when the FCB is pressed. >> >> As I said before, stumped. >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos