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Hi, I just want to report on my happiness and frustration with using Ableton Live as my looper host. On the happy side is that I'm finding Live 8.3 way more CPU efficient than my other two usual host applications Plogue Bidule and Mainstage. The dark side is that Live is no good when slaved by MIDI Clock to a hosted looper plugin. This setup causes regular audio dropouts. That's not fun since I'm a big fan of "trash-looping" where you instantly delete and rebuild the loop during a performance, resulting in constant tempo changes. I've done many tests and it just doesn't work in Live. So I'm now trying to learn how to adapt to the click and still stay creative with my looping. But there are other goodies in Live - one important fun factor is that you can bring in sequencing and set up random scripted slicing of canned loops playback along with the live looping. And the option to record multiple channels at 24/48 suits me fine (Bidule can do that too). Thanks to Max For Live I found a good tuner plugin as well, which comes in handy with a 12 stringed instrument :-) and I have also discovered that Live's own "Amp and Cabinet" plugin sounds ok for Stick and guitar. Not as good to my ears as the Amp Designer in Mainstage and not as good as Amplitube 3 but in the recent version Amplitube 3 tends to crash host applications or render saved documents corrupt. Bottom line is I'm happy with Live now. I'm also fine with saving the wildest sessions for Mainstage. Mainstage is less CPU efficient but as long as you stay under the red zone it works flawlessly as a slave, MIDI Clock synced host application for a looper. You can just trash everything in Mobius and start a new loop while the music is going and Mainstage smoothly adapts to the new tempo without an audio glitch while you hear all delays and termolo stuff slowing/speeding into the new tempo. Very cool. I will miss that in Live. Live may become my suit-and-tie-job host app and Mainstage my party-on host ;-)) Nothing bad in that, as long as you are aware about it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen