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Re: Flying with a guitar... or not



Freight! There's an idea! Hadn't thought of that.
Many thanks to all of you!




--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:

> From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Flying with a guitar... or not
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:24 PM
> If it is very very valuable and I
> absolutely must travel with it, (say, a vintage guitar) I
> freight it rather than handing it over the
> airline.   This allows me to use larger shock
> mount road cases and purchase adequate
> insurance.   In fact, beyond the airlines
> baggage weight limit, its actually cheaper to freight the
> equipment than check it as baggage.
> 
> In other cases, I have actually just bought a seat for the
> guitar.   Expensive but cheaper than
> heartbreak.
> 
> 
> Daniel 
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Torben Scharling wrote:
> 
> > I had a broken key on a Novation Remote midi keyboard,
> that was in it's factory box, after a flight from
> Montpellier to Copenhagen (top big for carry-on. When I
> bought my handmade bass in the US, I had it in it's molded
> hardcase flightcase. The case was then covered in blankets,
> and put in a big cardboard box, that I tied some gaffers
> tape around, and made a handle out of a rope. Nothing
> happened. So I guess I concur, that a molded flightcase
> (molded to the body of the guitar) + whatever additional
> precautions and extra padding you'd like, is a good start. 
> > 
> > I am however a bit frightened now, after these stories.
> If I'm able to gather the dough in time, I'll also be
> performing in Santa Cruz.. Buy very unsure which
> instruments, and what gear to bring with me. Kinda stupid
> that we'll be several people bringing the same controllers,
> expression pedals, loopers, mics, cables, electric guitars,
> etc. etc. and coming from overseas, that's gonna be a
> hassle. Anyway still early for all that planning, but
> thought I'd mention it already :)
> > 
> > 
> > On 05/08/2012, at 14.53, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Over the last few years, I've had a good deal of
> equipment damage/mishandling by airlines.  I think part
> of the problem is that the TSA ALWAYS opens my luggage and
> they don't repack it carefully.
> >> 
> >> The last straw was a flight to Ashville, NC, in
> 2010.  I had worked out my packing so that I could fit
> my theremin (an irreplaceble and valuable Etherwave Pro)
> into my carry on suitcase.  However, the plane was a
> small jet and I had to leave the suitcase at the end of the
> jetway to be "packed" in the baggage compartment.  I
> took my seat and watched the baggage handler grab my
> suitcase, swing it over his head and slam it down on the
> cart.  At that very moment, I decided that "This is
> it.  Never again. This is bullshit!".
> >> 
> >> It hurt.  Perhaps the baggage handler was just
> thoughtless and meant no malice.  However, I didn't
> feel like a "valued customer" that day.  I mean, good
> grief -- he was handling carry-on luggage.  Did the
> dumbass ever ask himself, "Why do people carry-on
> luggage?"  Duhh -- perhaps it is because the stuff is
> fragile or expensive.
> >> 
> >> And since then, my policy is that if I can't drive
> or fly myself (I fly light airplanes) then I don't play the
> gig.  It is not like I make enough money to compensate
> for the risk.
> >> 
> >> Incidentally, I played in Asheville last May and
> made the trip via Cessna.
> >> 
> >> I'd enjoy playing in Santa Cruz again however my
> future trips will likely be without equipment so I'd just
> attend without playing.  My light airplane just isn't
> equipped to fly over the Rocky mountains and from Kansas
> City to Santa Cruz would be a nearly a three-day drive
> (one-way).
> >> 
> >> To fly via airlines used to be pretty easy and
> pleasant.  Now it is a supreme hassle.  And -- on
> most airlines one has to pay extra for the privilege of
> having one's luggage abused.
> >> 
> >> As you can tell, the subject of airline flyhing
> with instruments is a sensitive one.  Don't get me
> started ....  :)
> >> 
> >> -- Kevin
> >> 
> >> Quoting Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp>:
> >> 
> >>> There is always risk, of course, but why don't
> you wrap it in bubble wrap, put cardboard around that, then
> more bubble wrap, then more cardboard etc. until it is as
> big as allowed. Also make sure the guitar can't move in a
> direction inside the case that could break the headstock,
> for example. Then demand/plead to have it hand carried onto
> the plane. I would investigate different airline's
> reputations. I brought back a very delicate Baroque guitar
> to Japan in April and it ended up being hand carried. That
> way it doesn't come through the machines at the luggage
> carousels.
> >>> 
> >>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Tim Mungenast
> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Hi Gang!
> >>>> 
> >>>> I am deeply honored to be able to play this
> year's festival. One thing that keeps me awake, though,
> besides performance anxiety, is something even more horrible
> than modern air travel: modern air travel with a guitar. Out
> of all my guitars, I cannot think of a single one that I
> would willingly risk to careless or felonious baggage
> handlers or overzealous members of the Security Industrial
> Complex. Sneaking a few pedals into my onboard bag should be
> easy, but the guitar is a much bigger deal.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Therefore I think I'd be best served by a
> guitar that will fit onboard and be playable but not
> something I'll get all sentimental over. Should I just look
> for a vintage Hondo II Chiquita (ka-ching!$) or an Erlewine
> Lazer (ka-ching again!)? I've been told that even those
> Hohner Steinberger copies are getting pricey. Maybe one of
> those novelty mini-strats? Any ideas would most welcome and
> greatly appreciated.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Ed Durbrow
> >>> Saitama, Japan
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
> >>> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
> >>> edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> 
>