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Give me the page on loopers-delight.com (NOT a mailing list archive; a page from Tools, Tips and Tricks, etc.) that says "This site is for live looping only! I repeat, LIVE!" Where does it say that? The home page says the opposite. I discovered this website when Googling tape loops, and tape loops are usually prerecorded. Tyler Z On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:44:10 -0700, Matt Davignon wrote: >Hmmm, I think we need to accept that some things are different than other >things, and that's ok. For example, if you see an apple, and you really >like >oranges, you could tell the apple that it has seeds, and a skin, and is >the >reproductive part of the plant, which makes it pretty much the same thing >as an >orange. However, the apple has been an apple for a while, and understands >apple-ness pretty well. However, nothing that the apple thinks should >prevent >you from enjoying oranges. >In a way that "jungle music" wasn't necessarily made in jungles, and >experimental music isn't the result of people in lab coats following the >scientific method, "Live Looping" for many people means a very specific >interaction between instrument and technology - where the performer is >both >generating the instrumental sounds live and sampling them live. >Yes, a DJ can can create loops in real time, but more often than not, the >music >itself was created by someone other than the DJ. In my experience, about >9 out >of 10 DJs are not composers or instrumentalists while they are DJ'ing. >They are >playing other people's music, and making only tiny changes to completed >pieces >of music to blend them together into a longer set. The value of a DJ set >is the >value of a curator - the DJ goes out and finds good music that you >haven't >heard yet and plays it. The DJs who compose are few and far between - the >ones >who actually create original music are even fewer and more far in >between. >(Those such as RJD2 often get credit for composing something when all >they did >was loop someone else's music and put a extra drum beat on it.) >Sorry - got off on a tangent there. In short, many things that use loops >are >not "live looping". You can still like whatever you want to like. >-- >Matt Davignon >mattdavignon@gmail.com >www.ribosomemusic.com >Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote: >Hello, everybody! I know it's kind of too late, but I want to post about >the >City Lights >Music Festival for future reference. This year, it was yesterday and >today. I >was there yesterday, and I >have recordings. Remember when I said that a Grand Rapids, Michigan loop >fest >would be amazing? >Well, it's not really touted as a loop fest, but the City Lights Music >Festival >(touted as an >electronic music festival) has a lot of qualities that a loop fest has. >There's >something many >people don't realize; you say the biggest city in Michigan is Detroit, >and >that's right! But Grand >Rapids is the SECOND biggest. It's a growing city, and we hope more >events can >take place >there; maybe a real loop fest! Who knows? But the City Lights Music >Festival >frequently >made use of something that is very similar to live looping. Most of the >samples >that the festival DJ'S >used were prerecorded, but if the DJ'S just put on the music and left it >alone, >the sample would just >play. But the DJ'S kept hitting repeat buttons on specific parts of the >samples, making it >"live" looping, so to speak. I don't have my recording of the CLMF >online, but >you can find out more about >it here: >http://www.citylightsmusicfestival.com >Tyler Z