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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Jack C <the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote: > I must say, the "feel" of what your using is important if you ain't > programming. That's one thing that kinda sucks about using PC's or Mac's. > Yes, they are powerful and limitless, but nothing compares to the feel of > hardware. I totally agree with this! When I moved from a four-track cassette "portastudio" to a classic setup with eight-track real-to-real tape machine, mixing console, patchbay and racks of effect devices I experience a total blockage of creativity. The new thing I had to learn, that is the same that you have to do if using software today, was to memorize and get experience of all possibilities so I could internalize the complete workflow in my mind and sort of "compose" with sound design and production work all within my imagination. That's a powerful method to create but the big downside is that the method never leads outside the limitations of your own "safe-zone". Comparing hardware and software I'd say that the only way to make software tools breathe the same work feel as hardware is to set them up as hardware. Ie limiting the options to whatever may work well with the connected controller hardware. I currently use a laptop based performance system and have gravitated to a pedalboard with banks of ten switches and four expression pedals plus a minimal hand mixer/button-pad. I gaffa taped the USB hub so I just pop in three USB cables (or four if a GR-55 is up for the gig) and plug guitars and mic into the RME sound box. I've streamlined my setup so much that it works almost exactly the same if hosted in Ableton Live, Mainstage or in Bidule. My switches and knobs all do the same things to the music no matter what host applications is running in the laptop. If talking work-flow that really is a hardware approach. The nice thing with geting directly into something like the Octatrack is that someone has already done the planning and patching for you. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen