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> Not to get between a man and his GAS, but is reprogramming the Gordius > to send notes harder than spending $289 for a new footswitch? :-) > > Jeff ha ha Ha Ha ha ha ugh unn urrrmphhh. This cave man is still rocking 2.0.2 version on his Gordius LG , the original librarian is on my studio windows computer, but I think its going to take updating the Gordius and completely reprogramming it with the new editor librarian, I just got back on the original librarian editor , and its just as confusing as I'm remember, programming some basic PC banks a few years ago. Just trying to juggle learning curves and I'll take another crack at programming some midi note stuff again, And yes I have gotten basic functions to work with pc commands in Mobius but not the Sus command stuff and that's what I want to get at, will try to figure out stand alone mode on the Gordius if that indeed is on the old editor and Phil yes I would gladly accept your templates once i figure out how I'm going to save my old presets on my old editor librarian for the the Looperlative, which i will still be using live for the foreseeable future, get the new software up and running, and hopefully be able to retrieve my original presets as I build new ones that can more easily accomplish midi note commands. Thanks all for the advice, this is not exactly intuitive :-) Thanks for sparing me from the GAS abyss Jeff!!! Bill