So you can use a single III in a stereo setting because it records in true stereo (unlike some of those pedals from large, impersonal, foreign manufacturers). While there is currently no ability to pan loops once recorded, the following setup allows loop placement in the stereo field.
instrument > mono effects > pan pedal >> III >> 2 amps or 2 PA channels (stereo PA of course) > = mono and >> = stereoSome folks are using the bro-sync ability to loop multiple instruments where each has its own III channel, its own PA channel, and unique EQ/pan/effects settings.
instr 1 > III(A) left > PA channel 1 panned 90% left instr 2 > III(A) right > PA channel 2 panned 30% left instr 3 > III(B) left > PA channel 3 panned 30% right instr 4 > III(B) right > PA channel 4 panned 90% right Holler if this needs clarification or other ideas along these lines pop up. Mike Nelson On 26-Oct-13 10:40 AM, Zak Kramer wrote:
I haven't looked on LD in ages, and I did just now because I was wondering if anything out there could supplant my beloved Rang. I've recently gone to a stereo rig, and I'm looking for more control of the soundfield. Lo & behold, I see that Mike has posted new firmware for the Rang. Serendipity? Karma? Luck? So -- here's my question: How does the audio signal path work in bro-sync? Can I assign a Rang to each amp? Or would both Rangs play through both amps? Or....? I was a Rang III early adopter, and I've used it constantly since then -- it's probably the single most used piece of gear I own. Could a second one only be better? Is that possible? Zak Kramer On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Mike <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote: You may be able to recapture some of that EDP freedom by making shorter master loops on the III when using Sync Play Style. With a 1 or 2 beat master (or even a full measure), longer loops can be played such that they are aligned in a variety of ways. I hope that makes sense. Mike Nelson On 23-Oct-13 5:05 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: I may be misremembering but as I recall one of the really nice things about brother sync on the EDP was that it synchronized loop length but not necessarily start point — or if it synchronized start point it did so somewhat independent of recording. I could be wrong about this but I know a lot of the behaviors on the EDP could operate in synchronized mode but did so without forcing one to wait for loop boundaries — unless one wanted to. That was one of my favorite features of the EDP and something I miss on the Rang when working in Sync mode. But it's been a while since I've used my EDPs since I went on an "avoid rackmount hardware" kick a while ago, so I may be misremembering exactly what they allowed and didn't allow. Mark On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: I would say that from a user point of view Brother Sync is way better for ensemble jamming than MIDI Clock. Given that this really has this Rang protocol has the same features as the EDP's original Brother Sync. Good thing in my opinion is that you don't have to decide in advance which player shall take the sync master role and which one shall be the sync slave - like you have to do if going with a MIDI Clock system. ... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com <http://www.perboysen.com> http://www.youtube.com/__perboysen <http://www.youtube.com/perboysen> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Tristan Zand <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote: Sorry to say, but why would you not use MIDI clock to sync them together.. From a user point of view I mean (we can definitely see the interest for any hard/software maker)? Cheers ;) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 22 oct. 2013, at 22:17, Mike <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote: Hi folks, We have a new version of software that allows multiple Rang(TM) IIIs to be synced WITHOUT any MIDI clock, and are looking for folks to check it out. It's free, of course, and can be easily downloaded, but makes no sense to do so unless you have more than one III. This new software, to be dubbed V3.1 when released, has only one new feature, this "brother sync" concept. You'll need MIDI cables connecting the IIIs. I was testing with 3 Rang(TM) IIIs and had some impressive results: 12 loops could be started and stopped and played together. If you're interested, send me an email and I'll reply with 2 attached files: .mid software file (downloaded to the III with a MIDI file player) and a .doc file describing the software. Thanks
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