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RE: "Repetition defines music"

Todd, I think that in this context whereas one person was listening to the music being played, the other was being played by the music/chant and as such found it more interesting because the person was sensing the vibes in his own body responding to the chant.   I once did an experiment at a dinner/dance gig where my band was playing after dinner.  During dinner I had some beats programmed and let them play in the background.  These had NO variation.  I used them just to provide time – it was more like a digital metronome with a simple bass line thrown in.  I let it play while everyone ate.  It was VERY much background music.  Finally, someone came up after about 10 minutes and asked if I could change it as it was monotonous.  I personally was kind of digging it and no one else seemed bothered at all and in fact the atmosphere was jovial and talkative.  So I got up and switched it to another beat – a cousin of the first J 


There is something good about repetition, but there’s a contextual element that adds to the mix.


Thanks for sharing, Todd!!




From: Todd Elliott [mailto:toddbert@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:22 PM
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: "Repetition defines music"


I am reminded of John Cage:

"At    the    New    School    once             I    was   
substituting    for    Henry    Cowell,                           
teaching    a    class    in    Oriental    music.
              I    had    told    him    I    didn’t    know    anything
   about    the    subject.                                    He    said,
                    “That’s    all    right.                                    Just
   go    where    the    records    are.                                    Take
   one    out.                                     Play    it             and    then
   discuss    it    with    the    class.”              Well,
               I    took    out    the    first    record.
              It    was    an    LP    of    a    Buddhist    service.
                                  It    began    with    a    short   
microtonal    chant    with    sliding    tones,
       then    soon    settled    into    a    single    loud   
reiterated    percussive    beat.                                     This
   noise    continued    relentlessly    for    about   
fifteen    minutes             with    no    perceptible   
variation.                                    A    lady    got    up    and   
screamed,                           and    then    yelled,
    “Take    it    off.                                     I    can’t    bear   
it    any    longer.”              I    took    it    off.
                A    man    in    the    class    then    said     
angrily,                          “Why’d    you    take    it    off?
                             I    was    just     getting     interested.”



On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:

Great article, thanks for sharing!

I do wonder what the critical mass of non-adjusted perfect repetition is.  In other words, if one takes  a digital loop  (As opposed to people playing), starts it and lets it play without changing anything whatsoever, at what point do people get tired with monotony? 












From: Jenko Nashorn [mailto:jenko.nashorn@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:49 AM
To: loopers-delight
Subject: "Repetition defines music"


I stumbled upon this article, and had to think of looping: "Repetition defines music." http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2014/repetition-defines-music/ 

 What do you think?