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Hi, a few counter-thoughts - purely conjecture. The play was at the theatre, but the literature pretty much definitely says the recording was it was done with an OB set up at the barn outside a chateau that Dewey had hired, with some work being done in the studio, and the kit established there. The show was using equipment that was set up. That is my reading of the situation anyway. If we had access to the playbills for the production, we would have a list of people to ask who may still be around, because even if the sound engineer on the night wasn't the guy, he might remember who was. And while there may have been hundreds of sound engineers around, given the amount of equipment the GRM had, and the extent to which it broke down, and the need for leave replacement, rostering, call-outs, there is probably 10% chance of encounter maybe? We can always hope -----Original Message----- From: emmanuel.reveneau@free.fr [mailto:emmanuel.reveneau@free.fr] Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 5:00 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Terry Rileys' mysterious French engineer tape loop innovator Hi, A few thoughts. First, the french engineer of the Radio Télévision Française was part of the team which work was to radiobroadcast the theater performances of the international festival "Théâtre des Nations". They had a special mobile studio for that, located inside the théâtre Sarah Bernhardt. Nothing says that our engineer was linked to Schaeffer's GRM. There were hundreds of sound engineers at the RTF during this period. Second, 1963 is the year of the relocation of the RTF from the old studios to the brand new "maison ronde", avenue du Président-Kennedy, Paris XVIe, and its transformation into ORTF the year after. Because of this moving, 1963 is a dislocated year for the archives of the institution. By the way, in general the archives of the french radio are disorderly dispersed all across the country (Paris, Fontainebleau, etc...), not easy to find something quickly. I found pretty fun to dedicate the first loopfest in Paris, last year, to this unknown guy (we have a tradition here in France to celebrate unknown guys), he is certainly a fifth business of looping, but there is really no certitude for us to achieve this identity quest. Third, this is my interpretation of the 1963 TLA story : "In 1963, the Theatre des Nations, a Parisian international theater festival, invited American playwright Ken Dewey’s company to present a performance at the Recamier Theater. The festival gave voice to the happening, a new movement initiated in 1957 by a student of John Cage named Allan Kaprow and that took off in New York and California. Dewey’s American Conservatory Theater (ACT) is multidisciplinary and includes choreographer Anna Halprin’s dancers in addition to members of the Living Theatre. In California, they experimented with new forms of theater and dance to create "multimedia" production in association with members of the San Francisco Tape Music Center. The Tape Music Center was a group of musicians that were interested in creating music by using magnetic tapes recorders. This group included Terry Riley, who created “Mescalin Mix" in 1962 for one of Halprin’s shows. In 1963, Riley scraped together a living in Paris playing jazz standards in bars in Pigalleand on NATO bases. Upon meeting Dewey, he agreed to create the soundtrack for the playwright’s intended performance at the festival: an adaptation of his play "The Gift" created the previous year in San Francisco. Dewey rented a ruined castle in the southern suburbs of Paris for rehearsals, while Riley made plans to work with Chet Baker - just released from prison in Italy for possession of heroin - and his quartet as musicians and actors. At the time, the quartet played regularly on the left bank at the cabaret le Chat qui pêche and included Luis Fuentes (trombone), Luigi Trussardi (bass) and George Solano (drums). Riley recorded the quartet (together, then separately) in the studios of the Radio Télévision Française, installed in the Sarah Bernhardt Theatre (current Théâtre de la ville) to broadcast the plays presented during the Théâtre des Nations. Baker chose to interpret "So What" by Miles Davis, a modal piece perfectly adapted to Riley’s intentions. Riley also recorded excerpts from the text of "The Gift" read by John Graham. Riley described to the RTF sound engineer assigned to assist him the echo technique he used to record “Mescalin Mix”. In Riley’s words: “I described the effect to the french engineer, a very straight guy in a white coat, wo fooled around and ended up hooking two tapes recorder together. Boy ! When you heard that sound it was just what I wanted… What you do is connect two tapes recorders. The first is playing back, the second recording, the tape streched across the heads of both. As this machine records, it feeds back to the other machine, which plays back what it’s added. It keeps building up… » Repetition and accumulation: the Time Lag Accumulator was born and would permanently alter Riley’s musical approach. He followed this development to its logical conclusion the following year by composing the founding piece of minimalist music: “In C”. Riley would also use a similar system in the 60’s for all-night improvisations in which he accompanied himself on the harmonium and saxophone. When Chet Baker heard his quartet’s music passed through the mill of the Time Lag Accumulator, he exclaimed "Man, that's some crazy shit!" Many shared his negative reaction to this deconstruction of the rule of music. The performances of "The Gift" on July 8, 9 and 10 1963 caused misunderstanding and even anger among a Parisian public that had come mainly to hear the famous trumpeter and expected a kind of musical theater. Baker was not even present at the premiere and Riley had to fill-in for him on short notice, using a toilet plunger as a trumpet. Actors, dancers and musicians were precariously balanced on a huge metal mobile hanging from the ceiling created by sculptor Jerry Walters. The title object would move from hand to hand during the play and was improvised at each performance. This created all kinds of opportunities for provocation and forced the musicians to play ever louder to cover the screams of the crowd. The maelstrom of sound created by Riley met the jazz quartet’s music. On the last evening, an actor concludes his line "This is an incredible experience" by destroying recorders and tape of which only fragmentswould ultimately survive: the 23 minutes of recording known since as the "Music for the Gift"." Emmanuel