Re: Mobius Scripting question...

[Robert Craig Thomas <robert@robertcthomas.com>]

Thanks for the answer, Per.   I checked out the EDP Comparision on Circular Labs, but it told me nothing new that would help with scripting in Mobius.

re: NextLoop + Multiply ... I've discovered that I need to use "Wait Loop" when I want to use "NextLoop" + "Multiply" in a script... for some reason Mobius waits automatically when reading a script "NextLoop" + "Record" but it tries to implement "Multiply" immediately and thus Multiply fails to run correctly - this happens regardless of synchronization settings in the Presets and Track Setups configuration (I've tried them all multiple times). 

Mobius is quite flexible and powerful, but that the documentation is so sparse is a bit of a problem.  I spent probably 6 hours working with supposedly "simple" scripts in Mobius over the past few days until I discovered the importance of the "Wait Loop" command.

As discussed already on the forums, I think a lot of people would pay some good money to see Mobius more completely documented, if not further developed.  But that's just my opinion.  And I recognize that most people on Looper's Delight prefer hardware looping to software looping, but for complex arrangements and integration with software samplers etc (e.g. I use live instruments and an EWI with Mobius under Ableton Live 8 x86, the latter for stability, since Live 9 had early issues..) Mobius can't be beat.

Thanks again for your help,

Bob Thomas

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

If you are not familiar with the many sides of the modes Record and
Multiply you can find information about that in the EDP manual (link
somewhere on the circularlabs.com Mobius pages). Both these commands
work slightly differently depending on the mode they are fired off.
One example: "The lame duck period" is the time between when a command
is given and the point where it is implemented (due to quantization
and switch quantization settings in the preferences). If you hit
NextLoop and then Multiply before the loop change occurs the Multiply
mode will be applied to the new loop when you arrive there. Another
example is if you already are in Multiply mode and hit Record, then
Multiply is cut off right away, side-stepping the SwitchQuant (pref¨s)
setting; i.e. resulting an un-quantized truncation of the loop. There
are more useful things to know about combination of modes, I just
mentioned two off the top of my head. You need to check them out to
understand how to use Mobius optimally and if I recall it correctly
the Mobius manual doesn't go into this in detail but refers to the EDP
manual.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Robert Craig Thomas

<robert@robertcthomas.com> wrote:
> Per, thanks for the tip, I went through and reset everything to defaults and
> it solved some of the basic problems
>
> Sorry for the uninteresting and boring (and probably stupid) questions, but
> I've spent several days and several hours a day wrestling with scripting in
> Mobius...
>
> But I am still having problems using Multiply... if I use normal Midi
> bindings to 1) NextLoop 2) Multiply... then the multiply doesn't take over,
> regardless of an empty loop or a "copy timing" loop...
>
> And when I script 1) NextTrack 2) Multiply... that works fine... but 1)
> NextLoop 2) Multiply... this doesn't work
>
> What are the peculiarities of the function "Multiply" that make it different
> from the normal function "Record" ?  Sorry for the stupid questions, but the
> manual lacks a lot of details when it comes to certain functions... e.g.
> among other mysteries,  I'm still trying to understand how to use "Variable"
> in a script...
>
> Is there somewhere on Loopers Delight were there are lists of sample
> scripts? I've searched the forum and scripts are mentioned but on the
> interent overall I've yet to find an actual collection of sample scripts for
> Mobius...
>
> Thanks in advance for any help using Scripting...
>
> Bob Thomas
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Check your Mobius settings, so they don't conflict with the script
>> regarding what mode to go into upon change of track.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Robert Craig Thomas
>> <robert@robertcthomas.com> wrote:
>> > I'm new to scripting with Mobius... and although I think I'm not a total
>> > idiot, I apparently am tending in that direction at the moment, since
>> > I've
>> > spent hours reading the mobius docs and "debugging" my simple scripts,
>> > but
>> > without success...
>> >
>> > Question: I want to write a script bound to a single MIDI trigger that
>> > will
>> > - end recording in current track
>> > - switch to next track
>> > - start Multiply-recording in the new track
>> > - use the same MIDI trigger to end Multiply in this track
>> >
>> > I've tried just using the most simple script (written in Notepad ++
>> > ANSI):
>> >
>> >      Nexttrack
>> >      Multiply
>> >
>> > ...but when I use this it does the following:
>> >     1) goes to the next track
>> >     2) records one cycle
>> >     3) stops recording automatically and switches to play...
>> >
>> > In the mobius window it shows (both "multiply" on top of each other):
>> >    multiply
>> >    multiply
>> > [delay]
>> >    multiply/end
>> >
>> > It makes no sense that this works this way... what do I not understand?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Bob Thomas
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Robert C Thomas, Gütersloh, Germany
>> > Handy 0176 504 36157 - Home 05241 307 1777
>>
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> Robert C Thomas, Gütersloh, Germany
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