socialism?

["Julio Moreno" <juliomoreno@bahianet.com.br>]

''No political solutions'' it's my last and new cliche to avoid discusions
about these because i been repeating the same arguments , listen the same
problems and reaching the same solutions in ALL the bars, streets, clubs
etcetc in various countries with diferent people, from diferent
economic/social/political/ enviroment and i feeling VERY idiot for the time
i lost to arrive allways to the same point: we must change our mind and
spirit for ''global'' concience. Frank Zappa said the  MBE (Master in
Bussines Economy) it's the worst and most deplorable thing, one dominant
culture (pseudo-culture)  can impose over  the people.
Sorry about these off- topic raged manifesto. Take care about your spirit,
health, you friends and your children concience and the m.... f....s
automatically will disapear. Stop to work for war directly or
undirectly...Good loops!
julio
Pd Sweden it's a Big weapon seller and gives the Peace Nobel Price.They 
have
14 nuclear power plants for 8 million people.I think Nobel invents TNT
   ; )

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael S. Yoder <myoder@tamiu.edu>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:15 PM
Subject: another misuse of "socialism"


> At 06:11 AM 11/29/99 PST, you wrote:
> >>Don't you mean *authoritarian*? National Socialists and Fascists
> >>hate capitalism, because it's based on brains rather than brawn;
> >>merit instead of mediocrity.
>
> THAT'S ABSURD!!!  The Nazis, who were socialist in name only (as a way to
> "sell" their idea to the masses) were absolutely capitalist.  The huge 
>war
> machine that they built in WWII made lots of German private military
> contractors filthy rich.
> Capitalism is based more on trickery and accumulated wealth than on
"brains."
> Please stop misusing terms like socialist, etc.  There's never been an
> authoritarian socialism that I know of.  The USSR, etc., also misused the
> term. I would hardly call the Israeli Kibbutz, the Mondragon 
>cooperatives,
> or Sweden's labor-friendly governance as "authoritarian."
>
> Michael
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