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Brian - I love your dreams. Keep dreaming! (And
better start saving $!)
I think both Kyma and MAX/MSP provide solutions. This is
cool! [Sometimes I feel that, if I'm into this "looper religion" thing,
then Kyma is like my denomination. :) That makes the MAX/MSP folks (and
Orville users, etc.) like a different denomination; same religion, they just use
different words to mean about the same thing!]
>>Ah yes, this is a tricky one, because
when you stop looping the sub-loop an d go back to a longer loop, you
>>might end up with clicks at the edges of the sub-loop. I have been
trying to solve that problem with little >>crossfades at either end of the
sub-loop, but I want to be able to keep playing the larger loop while recording
>>into the sub-loop also, and haven't quite figured out how to keep the
crossfades perfect at all times. I was >>ready to bail on this feature but
it's cool to hear that someone else has thought it would be useful, so I'll try
>>and get back into it.
>
Hmm.. any ideas
folks?
(Brainstorming here, haven't completely thought this out)
Seems like the trick might be to record it initially without
clicks. In other words, clean it up on the way into the loop
memory instead of on the way out (at playback). Sort of
like a "smart overdub". It would delay the recording by a few sample
points until an appropriate zero-crossing, then delay the "punch-out" until it
saw a matching zero-crossing (indicated by the first derivative). You
might need do double-buffer the baby. I.e., put the overdub into a working
buffer, trim it neatly, then shuflle it into the main loop memory.
Of course, if you put it into a trim/clean-up buffer, you
could trim it via fades (appearing as cross-fades in the loop) instead of
zero-crossings. In general, I prefer the zero-crossing idea because I
think it can be less audible (less artifacts), but it is more
work.
>I think the hardware products are great for
what they do, and they do a lot, but I do not know of any that let you
>overdub simultaneously into multiple backwards varispeed loops, while
playing complex sequences of >subsegments of other loops, in 5.1 surround,
and that's the sort of sonic mess I like to make.
Yes! The hardware products are the best for that "out of
the box" experience, but for ultimate flexibility/customizability, I think a
software solution (I include Kyma here) is necessary.
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