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Re: Repeater price {OT}

I think Steve got it right! As Matthias points out Repeater's price is 
surprisingly LOW, just reading all the promises in its manual.
Loopers in USA, in Europe we payed the same money for a Jamman, WITHOUT 
memory expansion, 5 or 6 years ago ! ! !  So I can't really consider that 
price high. All the worst experiences I've had in 15 years of equipment 
buying come from cheap marketing choices: When Lexicon LXP5 came out in 
1989, I got one of the very first 5 in Hollywood Guitar Center, being in 
Angeles to attend GIT. Well...the first stock missed all factory presets! 
! They had to retire the LXPs and put some stuff back into...those boxes 
were made in the far East. My first AND last MPXG2 was terribly 
F.....Up...the second worked...again made in the same area. Problems in 
Soldano SP77 preamps made over there.
When a factory tries to squeeze prices TOO MUCH, chances are buyers are 
going to get big crap, bad labour, software bugs, poor hardware breaking 
very soon and tons of other unexpected surprises.
Sometimes 30 or 50 bucks can make a huge difference in terms of 
and quality, so let's just see how the "new thing" worx and...if the 
has been kept...well, you tell how the story will end... best Italoooop

>From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Subject: Re: Repeater price {OT}
>Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:05:51 -0000
> > Damon, Bill is exactly right. With all due respect I say: That is your
> > problem. Find a way to make 'em cheaper. From what I've read in your 
> > manual you have an incredibly awesome product (if it works :^). Now you
> > an incredibly awesome price. Maybe you'll actually make money selling 
> > "skins" for the front cover, or service, or software upgrades or...
>Well, yes, ultimately it is Damon's problem, but by forcing prices down 
>this, we end up with inferior product, manufactured in conditions that non
>of us would want out families working in. It's this kind of hard 
>that has in part contributed to manufacturing being moved to countries 
>have fewer health and safety regulations, thus saving money for the
>companies, but contributing to the problems in a lot of countries in the 
>east. Quite a few music equipment manufacturers are making stuff in China
>now, where much of the factory labour is prison based, often people who 
>wrongly imprisoned for 'political crimes', who are then forced to work in
>inhumane conditions to make profit for the Chinese government and to
>increase the profit margins for western companies who are heading towards
>more and more price and quality cuts...
>It's the logical concequence of share-holder as opposed to stake-holder
>economics, and requires everyone who cares to do their bit.
>I've no idea what Damon's stance is on ethical trading, but by driving the
>street price lower and lower, more and more pressure will be on him to cut
>prices, and cheap labour is one way of doing that, though the lack of
>training involved in the work situation also means that quality suffers. 
>I buy a Repeater I'd much rather know that it's been made and checked by
>someone qualified, getting paid a sensible wage with all the health and
>safety issues that we take for granted in most of the west being looked 
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