Re: Sync SR-16 With Echoplex--Also! Change patterns thru MIDI (sort of long)

[Michael Clark <mcl451@airmail.net>]

Hi!  Thank you for responding.  Well, starting the drum machine, pressing
record on the EDP and begin playing - all at the same time - is a bit much.
 I was hoping it would be a bit like syncing tape - press play and off you
go.  Is there no easier way?   

Perhaps I'll try the PMC-10 - if it will start both functions 
simultaneously. 

Right now, I don't know if the EDP is actually seeing the drum machine.  No
reference point.

Thanks again,

Michael


At 10:19 PM 2/11/01 -0800, you wrote:
>OK, here's the problem--
>In order for the SR-16 to be synced to the EDP, it has to receive a clock
>from the EDP.  That clock will only be generated after the first loop is
>closed.  Therefore, if you want the drums to start when you begin 
>recording
>your first loop, you need the EDP to be synced to the SR-16.  So you would
>start the drums at the desired tempo and press record and begin playing, 
>all
>at the same time.
>I am doing this--sort of.  I use the PMC-10 by Digitech to send a variety 
>of
>messages simultaneously, sometimes to start the drums first and then 
>record
>later, since the EDP really wants to see the clock from the drums first.
>Now, you don't really have to sync the drums; if you are precise enough 
>and
>the loop is not too short, you should be able to start both at the same
>time.  The PMC is great for this since it has the ability to start 
>non-MIDI
>devices which use a footswitch.  But the best way is to let the drums play
>for a measure before starting to record.  BTW, if you have quantize on, 
>you
>can hit the record button anytime before beat one and it start on beat one
>of the next measure.
>ALSO OF INTEREST!!!!!
>I have found a way to change patterns on the SR-16 with MIDI.  As the
>display is not backlit, I have always found it a chore to find the right
>pattern while on stage.  I discovered how to do this with MIDI while using
>the Ztar (Starr Labs guitar type synth controller--
>http://www.starrlabs.com ).  It generates a command called Song Select 
>which
>turns out to be the command Alesis has implemented to change patterns.
>Unfortunately it doesn't work while the drums are playing.  I couldn't
>figure out how to generate the command from the hand help programmer which
>the PMC uses, but by using the record mode on the PMC I was able to 
>capture
>it.  This way you can label the proper footswitch and use the foot
>controller and avoid turning your back on the audience.  So anyone using
>this combination, if you need the patch, contact me and I will send it to
>you off list.
>Gary
>PS  Still need a job!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>> I want to sync my Alesis SR-16 to the Echoplex.  I've read both manuals,
>> but I don't know much about midi.
>> > I record with Multiple Loops.  I'd like the drum machine to start 
>when I
>> press record on Loop 1.  Presently, I record a loop, press record again,
>> and the drum machine starts.  I'm wanting everything to begin
>> simultaneously, and I want the drum machine locked into it's tempo - not
>> shaped by how long the loop may run (I'll use the drum machine as my
>"click
>> track").    I'd like to activate the process by pressing record on the
>> Echoplex.
>> > Also, I'd like the same beat from the drum machine to continue thru 
>the
>> recording of Loop 2, 3, etc.
>> > So, I press record in Loop 1 and begin playing my loop to the fixed
>tempo
>> drum track.  I go to Loop 2 as the drum track continues to play.  Loop 
>3,
>etc.
>> > Thank you!
>> > Michael
>
>