Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN

["mike morris" <circuithead_@hotmail.com>]

  if things actually worked in theory......lol~

shane

>From: Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN
>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:29:58 -0600
>
>   I also control my mix from the stage.  The only people I've EVER felt
>comfortable with, working with the mix, were certain bandmates, or a
>co-worker who was a sound person.  and, even then there were issues with
>some of the band.  The idea that the sound person is supposed to HELP in
>the process is a really good one, but *laughing*  it seems particularly
>rare to me, when musicians report on that actually happening.  I think 
>that
>part of it is that anybody can be a "sound person" and worse yet, some 
>have
>the attitude that they know it all, because they really don't.  <smile>
>The ones who do, usually won't act like it!  lol!  Anyway, -just my
>thoughts...
>
>Smiles,
>
>Goddess
>
>        At 11:47 AM 7/20/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >i understand the need to want to control all your gear from the 
>stage...but
> >just to throw in my 2 cents worth...thats the soundman's basic job to
> >amplify, mix, and produce a clear audible whole for the front house to 
>hear.
> >i do know how you feel because i have felt the same way before as a
> >musician, especially being a mallet/percussion player. However, i have
> >become a house soundman at a club this year and now understand the
> >importance of having control over the front house.  The soundman's KEY 
>job
> >is to make you sound better!!!! period. if he is not accomplishing that 
>goal
> >i would suggest bringing your own soundman to the gig...which of course 
>isnt
> >always affordable...but if at all possible, it makes a crucial 
>difference 
>to
> >have someone on your side out front makin sure the audience hears what 
>your
> >playin the way you want them to hear it.
> >shane
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Jehn <juno7@cfl.rr.com>
> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:22 AM
> >Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN
> >
> >
> >> Don't give up on the solo gig!  I hook everything together on my 
>mackie
> >> onstage and send the outs through a D/O back to the sound guy and 
>control
> >as
> >> much as I can from stage. My last gig was as minimal as it can 
>possibly
> >get.
> >> Looping voice, I usually use a JamMan, and two old EchoPlus DSPs. 
>Well,
> >two
> >> of the three died prior to the gig, so I did my set with ONE 
>EchoPlus, 
>my
> >> voice, and a harmonica. Now I'm all about minimalism. Intimacy is 
>good.
> >> Congrats on your gig!
> >> Jehn
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "whiteoakstudios" <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com>
> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN
> >>
> >>
> >> > I just give the sound man a stereo feed and use my own in-ear
> >monitoring -
> >> > at least then it sounds good to me and I just tell the sound 
>man/woman
> >to
> >> > pan hard right and left, with no eq.
> >> > It takes a real idiot to mess up those instructions - though last 
>time I
> >
> >> > played out of doors and followed the above I came down from stage 
>and
> >> asked
> >> > a freind how it went and he said"fine but I though you could have 
>done
> >> more
> >> > with stereo placement". I replied that the sound was bouncing all 
>over
> >the
> >> > place - turns out the PA man runs it all in mono!!
> >> >
> >> > Gareth
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > just got in from my gig opening for SUGAR DADDY AND THE BIG BONED
> >> > GALS.....went in 2 hours early for a sound check....."we supply all 
>the
> >> > speakers etc.".....the sound guy took all my inputs and rearranged 
>them
> >in
> >> > my
> >> > mixer and sent it out to his console.....for about 2 mins this 
>sounded
> >ok
> >> > (total sound check) but i was worried and not quite happy.....i am 
>not a
> >> > great or even good player, but i do pride myself in "my 
>sound".....WELL,
> >> > 8:00
> >> > o'clock comes and the first note i hit sounds like *shit* and i 
>begin 
>to
> >> get
> >> > worried.....this is nothing like what we had set up and his
> >configuration
> >> > totally freaked me, things were not where they should have
> >been.....where
> >> > was
> >> > the sound guy, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.....yikes, the show must go on 
>and 
>no
> >> one
> >> > wants to see a 53 year old man cry, although i was sweating like a 
>pig
> >in
> >> > the
> >> > sahara, so thankfully they could not see my tears.....IT WAS AWFUL, 
>i
> >had
> >> no
> >> > control of anything, boy does that make you feel like being
> >> > adventuresome.....then after cutting it about 10 mins. short 
>everyone
> >> comes
> >> > up and says "wow that was cool " and LIES to that 
>effect.....thankfully
> >> the
> >> > WILD TURKEY (sorry no scotch) kicked in and i did not burn my 
>guitar 
>and
> >> > rang.....i will never play through someone elses system again.....in
> >fact,
> >> > this solo thing is getting to weird, i need other warm bodies to 
>help
> >the
> >> > tunes out.....sorry for such a goofy post but if i cant share this 
>with
> >> you
> >> > all who can i share it with.....:(m
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>---
>
>   "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother.
>-Then, anything is possible..."
>
>


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