Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN

[Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net>]

  I also control my mix from the stage.  The only people I've EVER felt
comfortable with, working with the mix, were certain bandmates, or a
co-worker who was a sound person.  and, even then there were issues with
some of the band.  The idea that the sound person is supposed to HELP in
the process is a really good one, but *laughing*  it seems particularly
rare to me, when musicians report on that actually happening.  I think that
part of it is that anybody can be a "sound person" and worse yet, some have
the attitude that they know it all, because they really don't.  <smile>
The ones who do, usually won't act like it!  lol!  Anyway, -just my
thoughts...  

Smiles,

Goddess

       At 11:47 AM 7/20/01 -0500, you wrote:
>i understand the need to want to control all your gear from the 
>stage...but
>just to throw in my 2 cents worth...thats the soundman's basic job to
>amplify, mix, and produce a clear audible whole for the front house to 
>hear.
>i do know how you feel because i have felt the same way before as a
>musician, especially being a mallet/percussion player. However, i have
>become a house soundman at a club this year and now understand the
>importance of having control over the front house.  The soundman's KEY job
>is to make you sound better!!!! period. if he is not accomplishing that 
>goal
>i would suggest bringing your own soundman to the gig...which of course 
>isnt
>always affordable...but if at all possible, it makes a crucial difference 
>to
>have someone on your side out front makin sure the audience hears what 
>your
>playin the way you want them to hear it.
>shane
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jehn <juno7@cfl.rr.com>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:22 AM
>Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN
>
>
>> Don't give up on the solo gig!  I hook everything together on my mackie
>> onstage and send the outs through a D/O back to the sound guy and 
>control
>as
>> much as I can from stage. My last gig was as minimal as it can possibly
>get.
>> Looping voice, I usually use a JamMan, and two old EchoPlus DSPs. Well,
>two
>> of the three died prior to the gig, so I did my set with ONE EchoPlus, 
>my
>> voice, and a harmonica. Now I'm all about minimalism. Intimacy is good.
>> Congrats on your gig!
>> Jehn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "whiteoakstudios" <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN
>>
>>
>> > I just give the sound man a stereo feed and use my own in-ear
>monitoring -
>> > at least then it sounds good to me and I just tell the sound man/woman
>to
>> > pan hard right and left, with no eq.
>> > It takes a real idiot to mess up those instructions - though last 
>time I
>
>> > played out of doors and followed the above I came down from stage and
>> asked
>> > a freind how it went and he said"fine but I though you could have done
>> more
>> > with stereo placement". I replied that the sound was bouncing all over
>the
>> > place - turns out the PA man runs it all in mono!!
>> >
>> > Gareth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > just got in from my gig opening for SUGAR DADDY AND THE BIG BONED
>> > GALS.....went in 2 hours early for a sound check....."we supply all 
>the
>> > speakers etc.".....the sound guy took all my inputs and rearranged 
>them
>in
>> > my
>> > mixer and sent it out to his console.....for about 2 mins this sounded
>ok
>> > (total sound check) but i was worried and not quite happy.....i am 
>not a
>> > great or even good player, but i do pride myself in "my 
>sound".....WELL,
>> > 8:00
>> > o'clock comes and the first note i hit sounds like *shit* and i begin 
>to
>> get
>> > worried.....this is nothing like what we had set up and his
>configuration
>> > totally freaked me, things were not where they should have
>been.....where
>> > was
>> > the sound guy, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.....yikes, the show must go on and 
>no
>> one
>> > wants to see a 53 year old man cry, although i was sweating like a pig
>in
>> > the
>> > sahara, so thankfully they could not see my tears.....IT WAS AWFUL, i
>had
>> no
>> > control of anything, boy does that make you feel like being
>> > adventuresome.....then after cutting it about 10 mins. short everyone
>> comes
>> > up and says "wow that was cool " and LIES to that 
>effect.....thankfully
>> the
>> > WILD TURKEY (sorry no scotch) kicked in and i did not burn my guitar 
>and
>> > rang.....i will never play through someone elses system again.....in
>fact,
>> > this solo thing is getting to weird, i need other warm bodies to help
>the
>> > tunes out.....sorry for such a goofy post but if i cant share this 
>with
>> you
>> > all who can i share it with.....:(m
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


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