Importing and Exporting Repeater Loops (was:RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater)

["Tim Goodwin" <deepbass6@earthlink.net>]

Sorry if my post was misleading, but I haven't loaded any pre-arranged 
loops
onto the CFC yet.  That's why I wanted to know my options.

It's obvious that file sharing was one of the problems that Electrix was
wrestling with this past year.  For instance, last January's beta manual
includes an "Importing Loops into Repeater" section, complete with an
explanation of how to import and export loops to and from Acid, Cubase and
Digital Performer.

Here is a cut and paste of the material that they decided to edit from the
final print.  So use this at your own risk!  ;) I am reprinting this 
because
I think it may be of help to people.  My apologies if I am violating any
unspoken (or spoken) boundaries here...)  I assume that some of these
guidelines may not work because they were edited from the final manual.  
But
who knows?  Just don't blame me if following these directions makes your
Repeater blow up.  :)  Maybe Damon can let us know what to avoid (if it's
necessary to avoid any of the following...)

Here goes (I added the section numbers for ease of reference):


(1) Importing Loops Into Repeater:

To create a new loop, simply -

· Create a new folder in the Repeater directory.
· Name the folder “Loop_###” where “###” is the Repeater loop number.
· Drop up to four .WAV files in the folder. The files must be equal in
length and in a 16 bit 44.1kHz mono format.
· Use an audio editor to match the length of the loops if necessary.
· Rename the tracks “track_1.wav…. track_4.wav”.

Repeater will automatically calculate its proprietary information the next
time it plays the loop. If the loops are not the exactly the same length,
track one will be used as the master loop length and the other loops will 
be
truncated to match.


(2) Importing and Exporting loops from ACID to Repeater:

To Export loops from ACID to Repeater -

· First, mute the tracks you do not wish to export from ACID.
· Under FILE select EXPORT
· Save as a .WAV
· Select the export type “SAVE LOOP FILES AT PROJECT TEMPO”

You can save the files to your hard drive then copy them onto the Repeater
CFC using the Importing to Repeater procedure.

To Import Repeater loops into ACID, simply copy the Repeater tracks to your
hard drive. Rename them however you’d like, but keep the .WAV file
extension. ACID allows you to browse your hard drive and look for .WAV 
files
using the MEDIA EXPLORER, point to the Repeater files and ACID will ACIDize
when you SAVE AS under the Track tab of the properties page.


(3) Importing and Exporting loops from Digital Performer to Repeater:

Importing and exporting loops in and out of Digital Performer can be
accomplished by simply dragging and dropping the sound files of the SOUND
BITES window. Digital Performer expects the sound files to be in a .AIFF or
.SDII format. Use a utility like SoundApp, http://www.macdownload.com to
convert from .WAV to .AIFF. Be sure to follow the Repeater import procedure
outlined above when creating folders and tracks on the CFC.


(4) Importing and Exporting loops from Cubase to Repeater:

Importing and exporting loops in and out of Cubase can be accomplished by
using the Audio Pool.

To Import audio into Cubase -

· Activate the Pool window
· Select Import Audio from the pop-up File menu
· Select the file and click open.

Macintosh Cubase users will have to convert their loops into .AIFF or .SDII
format. Use a utility like SoundApp, to convert from .WAV to .AIFF.

To export a file -

· Activate the Audio Pool window
· Select Export Segment from the pop-up Do menu.
· Save the file. If you are on a Mac convert it to the .WAV format.

Be sure to follow the Repeater import procedure outlined above when 
creating
folders and tracks on the CFC with your new loop data.

--

Well, that's about it regarding importing and exporting files to and from a
PC to a Repeater.

I'm going to try and set up some loops with one or two 'prepped tracks'.  
By
using steps (2) and (1) from above.  I could then use the copy function to
move and edit them as needed.  I guess the one thing to remember is that if
(for instance) I load an Acidized loop onto track 1 of loop A, the tempo
that I select when exporting the track from Acid will be the true
tempo/length of the .wav file.  If I tweak the tempo knob and decide to add
new tracks to the tempo altered loop, I think that means that the new .wav
files will be of a different length.  Or will they?  It might be necessary
to resample loops that are copied and then tempo shifted to establish a new
common .wav length for that loop... or maybe not.  Whoa.  I'm getting
confused.

The other possibility is adding tracks to a loop that was first created on
the Repeater (as opposed to one that was manually created on my computer).
In this case, it's important to remember to resample any tracks that were
tempo or pitch shifted so that the selected tempo matches the true .wav
length.  Then it's only a matter of Acidizing loops to the true tempo to
ensure a .wav length match and dumping the new .wav files into the loop
folder as per the naming convention described in section (1).

I hope this helps.  It helped me to write it all out! ;) I'm gonna pickup a
CFC reader sometime this weekend and try this out.  I'll let you know how 
it
goes.

BTW, this is my first looper.  I messed around with a DL4 last year and
thought is was interesting.  But this thing is awesome.  The creative
potential is phenomenal.  I am floating.  I guess that makes me a true 
"next
generation" looper.  Onward and upward.

--
Tim




-----Original Message-----
From: Sean [mailto:sean_@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:07 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater


How are you getting the repeater to recognize the files you're copying on
the card?  Did you already have loops set up that were the same length as
the loops you're loading on the CFC?


At 06:07 PM 2001/09/07 -0500, Tim wrote:

>We had a blast.  I'm downloading ACID Express as I type.  I'm going to 
>load
>some ambient textures onto my new 128M card (which formatted in about 
>three
>seconds with NO problems).  Does anyone know if there are any other ways 
>to
>get .wav loop files on my PC onto my CFC with using a USB-CFC hookup?  Or
is
>that the best bet?  Thanks.