Re: Importing and Exporting Repeater Loops (was:RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater)

[Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net>]

Judging by what Electrix as said about this topic, what I'd do is first, 
on the
Repeater, is to make a loop of a desired time.  Leave it blank or put 
something
on it, doesn't matter.  You'll have a silent loop, but a loop anyway.  
Bring it
into your favorite audio cruncher, and crunch away, copy and paste from 
other
files, whatever, just don't change the length of the loop or the name.  
Drag it
back to the CFC and viola, it should be there in it's new and improved 
state.
I just got my computer back up and running, so I'm going to try this later
today.  Shouldn't matter, but I'm running all of this on the Mac OS.

Mark Sottilaro

Tim Goodwin wrote:

> Sorry if my post was misleading, but I haven't loaded any pre-arranged 
>loops
> onto the CFC yet.  That's why I wanted to know my options.
>
> It's obvious that file sharing was one of the problems that Electrix was
> wrestling with this past year.  For instance, last January's beta manual
> includes an "Importing Loops into Repeater" section, complete with an
> explanation of how to import and export loops to and from Acid, Cubase 
>and
> Digital Performer.
>
> Here is a cut and paste of the material that they decided to edit from 
>the
> final print.  So use this at your own risk!  ;) I am reprinting this 
>because
> I think it may be of help to people.  My apologies if I am violating any
> unspoken (or spoken) boundaries here...)  I assume that some of these
> guidelines may not work because they were edited from the final manual.  
>But
> who knows?  Just don't blame me if following these directions makes your
> Repeater blow up.  :)  Maybe Damon can let us know what to avoid (if it's
> necessary to avoid any of the following...)
>
> Here goes (I added the section numbers for ease of reference):
>
> (1) Importing Loops Into Repeater:
>
> To create a new loop, simply -
>
> · Create a new folder in the Repeater directory.
> · Name the folder “Loop_###” where “###” is the Repeater loop number.
> · Drop up to four .WAV files in the folder. The files must be equal in
> length and in a 16 bit 44.1kHz mono format.
> · Use an audio editor to match the length of the loops if necessary.
> · Rename the tracks “track_1.wav…. track_4.wav”.
>
> Repeater will automatically calculate its proprietary information the 
>next
> time it plays the loop. If the loops are not the exactly the same length,
> track one will be used as the master loop length and the other loops 
>will be
> truncated to match.
>
> (2) Importing and Exporting loops from ACID to Repeater:
>
> To Export loops from ACID to Repeater -
>
> · First, mute the tracks you do not wish to export from ACID.
> · Under FILE select EXPORT
> · Save as a .WAV
> · Select the export type “SAVE LOOP FILES AT PROJECT TEMPO”
>
> You can save the files to your hard drive then copy them onto the 
>Repeater
> CFC using the Importing to Repeater procedure.
>
> To Import Repeater loops into ACID, simply copy the Repeater tracks to 
>your
> hard drive. Rename them however you’d like, but keep the .WAV file
> extension. ACID allows you to browse your hard drive and look for .WAV 
>files
> using the MEDIA EXPLORER, point to the Repeater files and ACID will 
>ACIDize
> when you SAVE AS under the Track tab of the properties page.
>
> (3) Importing and Exporting loops from Digital Performer to Repeater:
>
> Importing and exporting loops in and out of Digital Performer can be
> accomplished by simply dragging and dropping the sound files of the SOUND
> BITES window. Digital Performer expects the sound files to be in a .AIFF 
>or
> .SDII format. Use a utility like SoundApp, http://www.macdownload.com to
> convert from .WAV to .AIFF. Be sure to follow the Repeater import 
>procedure
> outlined above when creating folders and tracks on the CFC.
>
> (4) Importing and Exporting loops from Cubase to Repeater:
>
> Importing and exporting loops in and out of Cubase can be accomplished by
> using the Audio Pool.
>
> To Import audio into Cubase -
>
> · Activate the Pool window
> · Select Import Audio from the pop-up File menu
> · Select the file and click open.
>
> Macintosh Cubase users will have to convert their loops into .AIFF or 
>.SDII
> format. Use a utility like SoundApp, to convert from .WAV to .AIFF.
>
> To export a file -
>
> · Activate the Audio Pool window
> · Select Export Segment from the pop-up Do menu.
> · Save the file. If you are on a Mac convert it to the .WAV format.
>
> Be sure to follow the Repeater import procedure outlined above when 
>creating
> folders and tracks on the CFC with your new loop data.
>
> --
>
> Well, that's about it regarding importing and exporting files to and 
>from a
> PC to a Repeater.
>
> I'm going to try and set up some loops with one or two 'prepped tracks'. 
> By
> using steps (2) and (1) from above.  I could then use the copy function 
>to
> move and edit them as needed.  I guess the one thing to remember is that 
>if
> (for instance) I load an Acidized loop onto track 1 of loop A, the tempo
> that I select when exporting the track from Acid will be the true
> tempo/length of the .wav file.  If I tweak the tempo knob and decide to 
>add
> new tracks to the tempo altered loop, I think that means that the new 
>.wav
> files will be of a different length.  Or will they?  It might be 
>necessary
> to resample loops that are copied and then tempo shifted to establish a 
>new
> common .wav length for that loop... or maybe not.  Whoa.  I'm getting
> confused.
>
> The other possibility is adding tracks to a loop that was first created 
>on
> the Repeater (as opposed to one that was manually created on my 
>computer).
> In this case, it's important to remember to resample any tracks that were
> tempo or pitch shifted so that the selected tempo matches the true .wav
> length.  Then it's only a matter of Acidizing loops to the true tempo to
> ensure a .wav length match and dumping the new .wav files into the loop
> folder as per the naming convention described in section (1).
>
> I hope this helps.  It helped me to write it all out! ;) I'm gonna 
>pickup a
> CFC reader sometime this weekend and try this out.  I'll let you know 
>how it
> goes.
>
> BTW, this is my first looper.  I messed around with a DL4 last year and
> thought is was interesting.  But this thing is awesome.  The creative
> potential is phenomenal.  I am floating.  I guess that makes me a true 
>"next
> generation" looper.  Onward and upward.
>
> --
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean [mailto:sean_@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:07 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater
>
> How are you getting the repeater to recognize the files you're copying on
> the card?  Did you already have loops set up that were the same length as
> the loops you're loading on the CFC?
>
> At 06:07 PM 2001/09/07 -0500, Tim wrote:
>
> >We had a blast.  I'm downloading ACID Express as I type.  I'm going to 
>load
> >some ambient textures onto my new 128M card (which formatted in about 
>three
> >seconds with NO problems).  Does anyone know if there are any other 
>ways to
> >get .wav loop files on my PC onto my CFC with using a USB-CFC hookup?  
>Or
> is
> >that the best bet?  Thanks.