Re: Importing and Exporting Repeater Loops (was:RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater)

[hutton <hutton@pathcom.com>]

This is very helpful information ....... Thanks Guys!

Mark Sottilaro wrote:

> Judging by what Electrix as said about this topic, what I'd do is first, 
>on the
> Repeater, is to make a loop of a desired time.  Leave it blank or put 
>something
> on it, doesn't matter.  You'll have a silent loop, but a loop anyway.  
>Bring it
> into your favorite audio cruncher, and crunch away, copy and paste from 
>other
> files, whatever, just don't change the length of the loop or the name.  
>Drag it
> back to the CFC and viola, it should be there in it's new and improved 
>state.
> I just got my computer back up and running, so I'm going to try this 
>later
> today.  Shouldn't matter, but I'm running all of this on the Mac OS.
>
> Mark Sottilaro
>
> Tim Goodwin wrote:
>
> > Sorry if my post was misleading, but I haven't loaded any pre-arranged 
>loops
> > onto the CFC yet.  That's why I wanted to know my options.
> >
> > It's obvious that file sharing was one of the problems that Electrix 
>was
> > wrestling with this past year.  For instance, last January's beta 
>manual
> > includes an "Importing Loops into Repeater" section, complete with an
> > explanation of how to import and export loops to and from Acid, Cubase 
>and
> > Digital Performer.
> >
> > Here is a cut and paste of the material that they decided to edit from 
>the
> > final print.  So use this at your own risk!  ;) I am reprinting this 
>because
> > I think it may be of help to people.  My apologies if I am violating 
>any
> > unspoken (or spoken) boundaries here...)  I assume that some of these
> > guidelines may not work because they were edited from the final 
>manual.  But
> > who knows?  Just don't blame me if following these directions makes 
>your
> > Repeater blow up.  :)  Maybe Damon can let us know what to avoid (if 
>it's
> > necessary to avoid any of the following...)
> >
> > Here goes (I added the section numbers for ease of reference):
> >
> > (1) Importing Loops Into Repeater:
> >
> > To create a new loop, simply -
> >
> > · Create a new folder in the Repeater directory.
> > · Name the folder “Loop_###” where “###” is the Repeater loop number.
> > · Drop up to four .WAV files in the folder. The files must be equal in
> > length and in a 16 bit 44.1kHz mono format.
> > · Use an audio editor to match the length of the loops if necessary.
> > · Rename the tracks “track_1.wav…. track_4.wav”.
> >
> > Repeater will automatically calculate its proprietary information the 
>next
> > time it plays the loop. If the loops are not the exactly the same 
>length,
> > track one will be used as the master loop length and the other loops 
>will be
> > truncated to match.
> >
> > (2) Importing and Exporting loops from ACID to Repeater:
> >
> > To Export loops from ACID to Repeater -
> >
> > · First, mute the tracks you do not wish to export from ACID.
> > · Under FILE select EXPORT
> > · Save as a .WAV
> > · Select the export type “SAVE LOOP FILES AT PROJECT TEMPO”
> >
> > You can save the files to your hard drive then copy them onto the 
>Repeater
> > CFC using the Importing to Repeater procedure.
> >
> > To Import Repeater loops into ACID, simply copy the Repeater tracks to 
>your
> > hard drive. Rename them however you’d like, but keep the .WAV file
> > extension. ACID allows you to browse your hard drive and look for .WAV 
>files
> > using the MEDIA EXPLORER, point to the Repeater files and ACID will 
>ACIDize
> > when you SAVE AS under the Track tab of the properties page.
> >
> > (3) Importing and Exporting loops from Digital Performer to Repeater:
> >
> > Importing and exporting loops in and out of Digital Performer can be
> > accomplished by simply dragging and dropping the sound files of the 
>SOUND
> > BITES window. Digital Performer expects the sound files to be in a 
>.AIFF or
> > .SDII format. Use a utility like SoundApp, http://www.macdownload.com 
>to
> > convert from .WAV to .AIFF. Be sure to follow the Repeater import 
>procedure
> > outlined above when creating folders and tracks on the CFC.
> >
> > (4) Importing and Exporting loops from Cubase to Repeater:
> >
> > Importing and exporting loops in and out of Cubase can be accomplished 
>by
> > using the Audio Pool.
> >
> > To Import audio into Cubase -
> >
> > · Activate the Pool window
> > · Select Import Audio from the pop-up File menu
> > · Select the file and click open.
> >
> > Macintosh Cubase users will have to convert their loops into .AIFF or 
>.SDII
> > format. Use a utility like SoundApp, to convert from .WAV to .AIFF.
> >
> > To export a file -
> >
> > · Activate the Audio Pool window
> > · Select Export Segment from the pop-up Do menu.
> > · Save the file. If you are on a Mac convert it to the .WAV format.
> >
> > Be sure to follow the Repeater import procedure outlined above when 
>creating
> > folders and tracks on the CFC with your new loop data.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Well, that's about it regarding importing and exporting files to and 
>from a
> > PC to a Repeater.
> >
> > I'm going to try and set up some loops with one or two 'prepped 
>tracks'.  By
> > using steps (2) and (1) from above.  I could then use the copy 
>function to
> > move and edit them as needed.  I guess the one thing to remember is 
>that if
> > (for instance) I load an Acidized loop onto track 1 of loop A, the 
>tempo
> > that I select when exporting the track from Acid will be the true
> > tempo/length of the .wav file.  If I tweak the tempo knob and decide 
>to add
> > new tracks to the tempo altered loop, I think that means that the new 
>.wav
> > files will be of a different length.  Or will they?  It might be 
>necessary
> > to resample loops that are copied and then tempo shifted to establish 
>a new
> > common .wav length for that loop... or maybe not.  Whoa.  I'm getting
> > confused.
> >
> > The other possibility is adding tracks to a loop that was first 
>created on
> > the Repeater (as opposed to one that was manually created on my 
>computer).
> > In this case, it's important to remember to resample any tracks that 
>were
> > tempo or pitch shifted so that the selected tempo matches the true .wav
> > length.  Then it's only a matter of Acidizing loops to the true tempo 
>to
> > ensure a .wav length match and dumping the new .wav files into the loop
> > folder as per the naming convention described in section (1).
> >
> > I hope this helps.  It helped me to write it all out! ;) I'm gonna 
>pickup a
> > CFC reader sometime this weekend and try this out.  I'll let you know 
>how it
> > goes.
> >
> > BTW, this is my first looper.  I messed around with a DL4 last year and
> > thought is was interesting.  But this thing is awesome.  The creative
> > potential is phenomenal.  I am floating.  I guess that makes me a true 
>"next
> > generation" looper.  Onward and upward.
> >
> > --
> > Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean [mailto:sean_@mindspring.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:07 PM
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater
> >
> > How are you getting the repeater to recognize the files you're copying 
>on
> > the card?  Did you already have loops set up that were the same length 
>as
> > the loops you're loading on the CFC?
> >
> > At 06:07 PM 2001/09/07 -0500, Tim wrote:
> >
> > >We had a blast.  I'm downloading ACID Express as I type.  I'm going 
>to load
> > >some ambient textures onto my new 128M card (which formatted in about 
>three
> > >seconds with NO problems).  Does anyone know if there are any other 
>ways to
> > >get .wav loop files on my PC onto my CFC with using a USB-CFC hookup? 
> Or
> > is
> > >that the best bet?  Thanks.