At 9:39 AM -0700 9/23/01, Doug Lawrence wrote: >There is the Snarling Dogs pedal called the Erogenous Moan that seems to >do >something like this: This wasn't the effect being used in the Tom Petty performance. The guitar signal was being sampled and played back in reverse, often sounding simultaneously with the direct signal. There certainly are some similarities in the resulting sounds (e.g. guitar notes swelling out of silence) but this is a result of time-reversal of the original envelope and not the creation of a new one through volume change. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz