Re: conceptual art and improvisation

["Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" <emile@foryourhead.com>]

At 11:20 PM +0200 9/23/01, luca wrote:
>Daniel wrote:
>>  that's a great: what is it? I don't know what it is. It is abstract.
>You got it.
>don't classify music and don't classify art (sorry for the "donts")
>just feel them
>there are people who don't feel anything behind a Kandisky, a Klee, a ....
>Brian Eno ....
>do you really think these abstract representations are still:
>(Daniel Words):
>>abstraction is an understandable but snobbish
>>caracterisaion f a music that doesn't respond to know standards of Pop or
>>chamber or jazz music.
>>Usually music instruments that are electrically and
>>electronically encased in effects usually stop by a road where they will 
>be
>  >called abstract before being called somethingelese such as psychedelic.
>
>I'd go back to what Matthias wrote regarding his reaction to Hermeto 
>Pasqual
>that reminded me when
>I was at Derek Bailey's and we were talking about a musician.
>Derek was disappointed by the fact that while they were playing
>he could clearly listen that he was repeating himself; he wasn't 
>improvising
>with real freedom.
>his words captured me and put me in a very introspective mood.
>Is improvisation a discipline ?
>or is improvisation a medium ?
>I feel I agree with the second definition.
>also i think that some arts' representations put yourself in discussion
>(please any good italian/american help me if i'm translating bad)
>this is where the most of the abstract art goes.
>The message is not in the object; it is inside you and you just have to 
>feel
>it.

Indeed, the charm of the experience (for the improviser) is that the 
'message' is not apparent to the 'messenger' until it had been sent.
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