>http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.01/eno.html yes, I know, for me the LOOP delay was enough... I totally agree that a tool has to be simple enough to be understood by intuition. but I am not sure whether he is right about limitations: Why would the creator of the tool have to give them? Certainly to some extent, but: Why cant the users brain select a limited enough number of features and then teach those to intuition and forget about the others? -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org