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Re: OT: synch SR-16, Sonar (or similar) and DTX?



Well, for the first part, simply record the midi out drum beat of the SR-16
onto a track in Samplitude or Sonar - I use Cubase and assume your software
is about the same.  Hopefully, timing issues will not be a problem - if so,
well that's another topic.  Once the track is recorded, line it up so the
beat sequences are correct and edit it how you wish.  In Cubase, you can
also split the midi instrument parts onto separate tracks - snare, kick, 
etc.

M....

At 05:32 PM 3/20/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a question that I cannot seem to find an answer to.  Hopefully
>someone on this list will be able to explain this to me in a "For Dummies"
>format!
>
>My band recorded some songs to the PC (multitrack, using Samplitude, but I
>also have Sonar).
>
>My drummer wants to replace most of his drums with MIDI triggered stuff.
>
>He "recorded" himself playing with the song into an Alesis SR-16 drum
>machine.  Basically the song or patterns are stored on the SR-16.  I know
>that there are going to be some areas where hits (bass, cymbals, etc.) are
>going to be off.
>
>What we would like to do is this:
>
>Dump the sequences from the SR-16 to Samplitude or Sonar (if you only know
>how to do this in Cubase or whatever, tell me that too, maybe I can figure
>out from that what I need to do).  If it is possible to assign the MIDI
>channel/notes to specific drum patches automatically that would be nice, 
>but
>if not, we can figure something out.
>
>Once the sequence from the SR-16 is in Sonar/Samplitude we want to tweak 
>any
>timing issues by bumping the MIDI note on/off messages to fit the timing 
>of
>the .wav files (bass guitar) that have already been recorded.
>
>Once that is done, we want to take that MIDI sequence info, and send it to
>my drummer's Yamaha DTX (since he thinks it sounds a lot better and more
>realistic).  At this point we will send the stereo audio out of the DTX 
>back
>into the audio in of Sonar/Samplitude, and record it as a stereo wav 
>track.
>
>OK, not IF it is possible to separate out the drum tracks (say snare, bass
>cymbal1, cymbal2, tom1, tom2) into separate tracks in SOnar/Samplitude, 
>that
>would be ideal.  My GUESS is that we could separate out the MIDI sequence
>into sparate tracks, or possibly not do that and just send certain 
>messages
>out to the DTX such that with one pass (synched to the time-clock in the
>initial sequence) we record the bass drum, the next pass records the snare
>(or even on one pass we record bass to the right audio channel and snare 
>to
>the left), etc., etc. until the whole kit is recorded in digital audio wav
>format with a track for each piece of teh drum kit.
>
>If all else fails we can just have the whole kit on 1 stereo track, but 
>that
>can cause EQ/mixing problems down the line.
>
>If anyone can help, or point me in the right direction, it would be 
>greatly
>appreciated!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Alex F/Brain21
>
>