Re: looking for simple live looper not based on tempo....

["James Winger" <jdwinger@hotmail.com>]

Hey Dylan;

Digitech made a few long delay racks in that time machine series

you may also want to check out the 3600 - which got about 7.2 seconds (you 
could trim it to about 8) and had digital display.

I'm not really a big Phish guy, so I couldn't comment on a particular 
sound.

One caveat with the older loopers, while you don't have to start and stop 
a 
loop, it also means that you don't have any control over that.  It was a 
little difficult to get a "seamless" loop as you had to anticipate exact 
loop length and play into that.








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hi new member-my looping experience is "new" also, but if you
are going to use a looper live, i would recommend a foot-pedal oriented 
thing.
if you get a rack delay/looper you'll have to get a foot controller of 
some 
kind. my first digital delay pedal, the yamaha dds-20m (from late 80's) 
did 
something like you wanted. it had a sample mode where you could sample
1.2 sec of material and play it back hitting the pedal button. it also
had 1.2 sec of delay.
i'm sure that some of the newer pedals, the boss dd-6 or the digitech 
x-series
delay would do something similar (i don't have them, just have read about 
them).
those both have 4-5 sec of delay/looping time.
some thoughts for you. i'm sure others will chime in.
s---


>hi all,
>
>i'm a new member. i got a question, sorry if you've gone
>over this before, i've checked the archives but didn't find
>an answer...
>
>i'm looking for a simple looper to do live loops not based
>on tempo. i'm trying to mimic the thing trey anastasio of
>the band phish does in songs like "ghost" and "sand" and
>"first tube"....
>
>i've looked at the boomerang and the new boss looper, but
>these require you to start the loop as well as stop. so now
>i'm looking at old-school rackmount delays, which don't
>require you to start the loop, only to hit the "hold"
>button to make it start looping.
>
>i've heard trey uses the ibanez dm-2000 for this stuff, but
>it only has a 2-second delay i think.
>
>anybody have experience with the following units? (i can
>get these units locally)
>- ibanez dmd-1000 (1-2 sec delay?)
>- digitech rds-900 (1-2 sec delay?)
>- ada delay (1 sec delay, profiled here:
>http://www.guitargeek.com/gearview/254/
>- rocktron powerplay fx/delay
>- digitech rds-8000 (8 second delay!!)
>
>right now i'm leaning towards the rds-8000. what should i
>pay for this?? any thoughts on these or other units?? any
>advice is VERY appreciated, email me privately or on the
>list, thank you!!!!!!!!!
>
>i'm looking for something to play riffs into live that will
>repeat it hypnotically ad infinitum...... thanks!
>
>dylan
>dylanhassinger@yahoo.com
>
>
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