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Re: EH 16sec.DDL reissue?



So I wonder how this new Roland Delay pedal is doing it.  My MoFX delay 
also seems to be able to act just like my old delay pedals of 
yesteryear....

Mark Sottilaro

On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 08:42 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:

>>  The EDP and Repeater have great power,
>> but are different things and most useful for those who enjoy twisting
>> and control of multiple loops (and like reading manuals).
>
> no, I did not build the EDP for this and dont use it like that, 
> personally
>
>>  The 16-second
>> DDL is just hands-on immense fun.
>
> and the EDP isnt?
> It has more functions, but there is no need to use them.
>
> Reasons for a reissue of the EH:
> - cheaper / smaller than a EDP - as other units on the market are.
>
> - the specific sound characteristic, given by the Bucket-Brigade 
> technology - but thats the chip which is not available any more! Also, 
> this sound probably can be reasonably well moduled, I dont how how 
> good the DL4 is at that.
>
> - The speed/pitch variation as well discussed in other posts
> You dont need a Bucket-Brigade for that, as it works very similarely 
> on the early digital delays which used pure HW AD and DA converters 
> that can be clocked just like the Bucket-Brigade. Or do you hear a 
> difference I am not aware of?
> The newer cheap and good converters (CODECs) all have an internal 
> processor and thus cannot be clocked freely. So to reissue a unit that 
> works like the old digital delays you woud have to use old, expensive, 
> noisy, hard to find parts (I did not dig throug that chip market 
> recently, so I may be wrong).
> We are aware that we should provide that in a future EDP kind of 
> product.
> In order not to turn the HW expensive, we should do it by software 
> modeling. Since the EDP works with a endless memory and not by reading 
> samples, it should not be too dificult. But I cannot promiss nothing 
> here...
> I wonder whether Line6 tried and did not succeed or whether they did 
> not think of it?
>
> It becomes even more tricky if you want to module the mechanical 
> characteristics of a tape echo speed control...
>
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