Re: open air headphones (looping with a mic)

["astroblue" <astro@astroblue.com>]

I have always associated open-air headphones with being far more 
susceptible
to feedback when standing near an open mic.  That was apparently not a
problem for you?

It certainly is nice to be able to hear the room and especially other
performers speaking to you :)

Second the recommendation on headphone.com. Great resource and very
educational. Who knew there were folks paying almost $4K for a personal
headphone amp? wow

thanks for the tip.

Bob Campbell

<avoid subject rot, change subject lines often to keep them fresh and
inviting!>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Bolan" <pbolan@csiconstruction.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: looping with a mic


> Yesterday I performed some looping on an acoustic guitar in a church
> where the on-stage sound levels had to be low.  I used a little
> Behringer mixer to split the signal off my looper to [the board] and to
> [the headphones].  It worked great.  I used Grado open-aire headphones.
> Grado headphones do not occlude your ear from outside noise, so you can
> still hear the room ambience or the band or whatever.
>
> A word about the Grado headphones: I picked these headphones out at a
> headphone trade show.  They have a nearly flat response across the
> spectrum, not bass heavy like most of the consumer brands.   Their entry
> model is under $100.  Checkout at headphone.com, or gradolabs.com.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Michael [mailto:rob_michael_2002@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:15 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: looping with a mic
>
> The solution is simpler that one might think.  As long
> as your looping rig involves a sub-mixer w/  headphone
> jack--have the house floor monitors turned off
> completely and simply use any earbuds/headphones.
>
>  I have done this w/ a Mackie 1202 vlz several times.
> In order that I can EQ my stereo headphone mix without
> messing with the house mix-just go phones out into the
> channel inputs another small mixer (those cheap little
> behringers are fine) and split the signal at the 2nd
> mixer's  phone out to accomodate any one else who may
> need the mix.
>
> It's not the most glamorous solution--but room noise
> and feedback problems are effectivley eliminated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rob Michael
>
>
> >I've been dreaming of a earbud/headphone system to
> use >as monitors for
> >years.  I know a lot of big acts use them
> exclusively.  >Anyone here
> >using something like that?
>
> >Mark Sottilaro
>
> >On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 04:05 AM, Ian
> Popperwell wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I used to use my DL4 with my miced up flute (close
> clip-on omni
> > condenser) and
> > had such problems with build-up of noise from
> monitors and audience.
> > There's a
> > really critical level, over which FOH and monitors
> made it imposible
> > to create
> > loops with much subtlety and definition. I agree
> about gates and volume
> > pedals,
> > also monitor levels, position on stage also help.
> >
> > I now use my wind synth system and its wonderful not
> to wory about
> > noise and
> > feedback - that any "noise" that I create is
> deliberate and part of
> > what I'm
> > doing.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> >
> > At 07:15 19/01/03 , you wrote:
> >> yes ii used to mic my looping set up. it was a
> nightmare! especially
> >> in live
> >> situations. gates help, you cant get around direct
> somehow. i have
> >> built a
> >> nifty routing system that pulls up to 12 channels
> into my boomerang+.
> >> let me
> >> know if this interests you or anyone else.
> >>
> >> peace
> >> jimmy george
> >>
> <http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com/>http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: ernesto schnack <schnack@mailbolt.com>
> >> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:34 PM
> >> Subject: looping with a mic
> >>
> >>
> >>> I just had a bit of a revelation by looping for
> the first time with a
> >>> mic, instead of plugging in my acoustic guitar.
> The result was
> >>> great,
> >>> esp. because it allowed me to easily use other
> instruments
> >>> (including my
> >>> voice).  I was even thinking of using a stereo
> pair and recording
> >>> parts
> >>> from different positions to place them in the
> stereo field.
> >>>
> >>> However, the leaking of the monitored signal into
> the mic became a
> >>> problem at one point, but i managed to keep it
> under control since i
> >>> had
> >>> the input muted in the repeater.  Still, in a live
> situation this
> >>> would
> >>> be quite a problem. Anybody have experience doing
> this?  Any
> >>> suggestions
> >>> on preventing leakage, noise gate on the mic
> maybe?
> >>> --
> >>> ernesto schnack
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> >>>
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