Re: Echoplex w/drum machine question

[Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net>]

  Terry, regardless of how good sync is on any looper, if you record a loop
forward, and have it play in time with a drum machine, or some source, and
then decide to reverse the loop, right then and there, you've disturbed the
sync just by the very nature of what you've just done.  Does this make
sense?  As an example, if you have a four beat loop playing along with a
four beat measure on a drum machine, and then reverse the loop on beat
three, then flip it forward again, one beat later, beat three of your loop
will now be synched with beat 1 of the measure on the drum machin.  I'll
write it out below.  

12323
12341

The top row are the beats of your loop, and reversal, and the bottom row
are the beats on the drum machine's measure.  You'll need to retrigger or
realign the loop to bring it back into sync.  -or, you could go on like
that, and beat three of your loop would then always fall on beat 1 of your
measure.  They should still stay in relative sync, -just not the way you
recorded the loop in the first place.  Does this make sense?  
  Anyway, -hope this helps...  

Smiles,

Cara

At 11:19 AM 6/24/03 -0700, you wrote:
>> > (I have quantize on and set to LOP, 8th cycle is
>> > set to 8, and sync is set to out, switch quant is
>> > off. I set the tempo to 140.) If I need to change 
>> > any of these settings let me know.
> 
>> I'm not sure I understand exactly what you want to
>> do, but did you try with switch quant set to some 
>> value?
>
>Hi Per,
>
>Thanks for trying to help me out.
>No I haven't tried setting the switch quant to some
>value. What value should I set it for?
>  
>> > I tried setting the half speed button to a
>> > parameter with double the value of everything else
>
>> > and it did keep the drum machine at the same speed
>
>> > when I hit half speed but, If I hit half speed 
>> > again later to return it to normal speed, the drum
>> > machine doubles it's speed. 
>> 
>> To use this workaround you need to program two
>> different foot switch commands:
>> 
>> 1) HalfSpeed/PC with 16 8th/cycle
>> 2) FullSpeed/PC with  8 8th/cycle 
>> You can not use the "speedbutton" command. 
>
>I will try that.  
>
>> >It is also out of sync. 
> 
>> ...switch quant?  ;-)
>
>I have this set to off. What sure it be set to?
> 
>> > Are any of you out there able to use all of the
>> > functions in the echoplex and keep a drum machine
>> > going steady and in time for 10 minutes without
>> > drifting, and without going schizoid when you hit
>> > any button besides overdub?
>> 
>> If that's what you want it might be a good idea to
>> put the drum machine as master and slaving the EDP?
>
>I've tried using the echoplex as a master and slave
>and had similar problems. 
>
>> But then, this thread has been all about using the 
>> EDP as master with a slaved drum machine, or am I 
> >mistakenhere?
>
>I don't really care which is the master or slave as
>long as it works and stays in sync. Which way stays in
>sync best?
>
>Ideally it would be nice to be able to start a song
>I'd programmed on the drum machine with a four count
>countoff, then hit record on the echoplex and start
>recoring along with the drum machine right away. Then
>I'd like to be able to use the echoplex as I normally
>would and it stay in synce with the drum machine even
>if I played for 45 minutes which I frequently do. 
>
>All the very best!
>Terry
> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Per Boysen
>> 
>
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