Re: Echoplex w/drum machine question

[Terry Blankenship <electricgypsys@yahoo.com>]

That doesn't make sense. I am using quantized
functions, and if you look at the screen when you hit
reverse it actually reverses the order of the loop.

1234 to 4321.

Using quantized functions if you hit the reverse
button at the right spots (which I did) it I'd think
it SHOULD come right back to where it started.

Terry


-- Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net> wrote:
>   <smile>   -or quantize your functions as Kim
> suggested.  <smile>
> -Thanks Kim...   
> 
> Laters,
> 
> C
> 
> At 10:11 PM 6/24/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >  Terry, regardless of how good sync is on any
> looper, if you record a loop
> >forward, and have it play in time with a drum
> machine, or some source, and
> >then decide to reverse the loop, right then and
> there, you've disturbed the
> >sync just by the very nature of what you've just
> done.  Does this make
> >sense?  As an example, if you have a four beat loop
> playing along with a
> >four beat measure on a drum machine, and then
> reverse the loop on beat
> >three, then flip it forward again, one beat later,
> beat three of your loop
> >will now be synched with beat 1 of the measure on
> the drum machin.  I'll
> >write it out below.  
> >
> >12323
> >12341
> >
> >The top row are the beats of your loop, and
> reversal, and the bottom row
> >are the beats on the drum machine's measure. 
> You'll need to retrigger or
> >realign the loop to bring it back into sync.  -or,
> you could go on like
> >that, and beat three of your loop would then always
> fall on beat 1 of your
> >measure.  They should still stay in relative sync,
> -just not the way you
> >recorded the loop in the first place.  Does this
> make sense?  
> >  Anyway, -hope this helps...  
> >
> >Smiles,
> >
> >Cara
> >
> >At 11:19 AM 6/24/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >>> > (I have quantize on and set to LOP, 8th cycle
> is
> >>> > set to 8, and sync is set to out, switch quant
> is
> >>> > off. I set the tempo to 140.) If I need to
> change 
> >>> > any of these settings let me know.
> >> 
> >>> I'm not sure I understand exactly what you want
> to
> >>> do, but did you try with switch quant set to
> some 
> >>> value?
> >>
> >>Hi Per,
> >>
> >>Thanks for trying to help me out.
> >>No I haven't tried setting the switch quant to
> some
> >>value. What value should I set it for?
> >>  
> >>> > I tried setting the half speed button to a
> >>> > parameter with double the value of everything
> else
> >>
> >>> > and it did keep the drum machine at the same
> speed
> >>
> >>> > when I hit half speed but, If I hit half speed
> 
> >>> > again later to return it to normal speed, the
> drum
> >>> > machine doubles it's speed. 
> >>> 
> >>> To use this workaround you need to program two
> >>> different foot switch commands:
> >>> 
> >>> 1) HalfSpeed/PC with 16 8th/cycle
> >>> 2) FullSpeed/PC with  8 8th/cycle 
> >>> You can not use the "speedbutton" command. 
> >>
> >>I will try that.  
> >>
> >>> >It is also out of sync. 
> >> 
> >>> ...switch quant?  ;-)
> >>
> >>I have this set to off. What sure it be set to?
> >> 
> >>> > Are any of you out there able to use all of
> the
> >>> > functions in the echoplex and keep a drum
> machine
> >>> > going steady and in time for 10 minutes
> without
> >>> > drifting, and without going schizoid when you
> hit
> >>> > any button besides overdub?
> >>> 
> >>> If that's what you want it might be a good idea
> to
> >>> put the drum machine as master and slaving the
> EDP?
> >>
> >>I've tried using the echoplex as a master and
> slave
> >>and had similar problems. 
> >>
> >>> But then, this thread has been all about using
> the 
> >>> EDP as master with a slaved drum machine, or am
> I 
> >> >mistakenhere?
> >>
> >>I don't really care which is the master or slave
> as
> >>long as it works and stays in sync. Which way
> stays in
> >>sync best?
> >>
> >>Ideally it would be nice to be able to start a
> song
> >>I'd programmed on the drum machine with a four
> count
> >>countoff, then hit record on the echoplex and
> start
> >>recoring along with the drum machine right away.
> Then
> >>I'd like to be able to use the echoplex as I
> normally
> >>would and it stay in synce with the drum machine
> even
> >>if I played for 45 minutes which I frequently do. 
> >>
> >>All the very best!
> >>Terry
> >> 
> >>> All the best
> >>> 
> >>> Per Boysen
> >>> 
> >>
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