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RE: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
Thank you all for your input on this subject!
Claude's input using SysEx messages was a tad depressing ... The FCB1010
pull this off and apparantly Plex's can hiccup acoustically during SysEx
processing (their admission/apology, in the manual).
There is a suggestion of using separate Source # or MIDI channels and
two messages. I wonder if synchronization (when working in stereo) would be
compromised. I sense that the Plex designers put a lot of effort into the
synch issue ... brother synch and intelligent midi piping and all that.
sending two MIDI messages might degrade that stereo synch in comparison
And then there's the issue that the FCB 1010 is not up to the task. Hmmm.
using it for a year to control two Plexes and a PCM81. Reprogrammed it
times and used it live dozens of times over the last year.
In a gig last night, I tried doing the 'punch the panel buttons' thing to
the two channels so they played two different parts of an ostinato and then
reversing one of the channels. Cool acoustic effect, crappy psychological
effect. I can tap a footswitch without missing a beat, but going over to
panel was disorienting and took me way out of the music for like 30
Now I see that the FCB1010 cannot send multiple notes on a single tap.
> PMC-10 for awhile, but, and maybe mine was weird- there was about a 100ms
> from when I pressed the pedal to when the EDP changed its state.
Yikes! 1/10'th second? That is disqualifying.
- Clint Goss
From: Kim Flint [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: Addressing a single Echoplex in a Stereo Setup
At 02:53 PM 6/17/2006, hazard factor wrote:
> This is true, although with the hacked firmware, it has allowed for
>some improvement. There apparently isn't enough memory for different
>channels per preset, or releasepedal messages, although for probably a
>few pennies more they could have maybe used a little bit more memory.
if people are going to the trouble of hacking the firmware, why not change
the memory also and increase the memory size? Seems like it would be a
simple hardware mod, unless the problem is the cpu address range is already
>So, for midi controllers, this leaves us with the PMC-10 and maybe the
>Rocktron All Access, although the Access is about the same price as an
yes, if you are only thinking of midi footpedal controllers. But there are
plenty of other types of controllers. Keyboard controllers, drum
sampler/drum machine boxes, table top studio fader boxes, etc.
Many options, unless you are a guitarist who wears big boots and doesn't
>I will say- I used the PMC-10 for awhile, but, and maybe mine was
>weird- there was about a 100ms delay from when I pressed the pedal to
>when the EDP changed its state.
Are you talking about the Yamaha MFC-10 midi pedal? That has a known
problem like you describe. But the old digitech PMC-10 definitely does not
any latency issue. After all, Andre LaFosse uses the Digitech PMC-10 for
supa-fast pedal pushing. No way he could do that without a responsive
>I just use the EDP controller for the EDP, and the FCB1010 for
>else- they work pretty well together.
That is another good approach to this. You can use midi control and the
pedal together just fine. So you could have the FCB1010 set up to control
two Echoplexes together in stereo, and then have the pedal plugged into the
slave Echoplex to control it independently. You could probably even come
some sort of "midi switch" that disconnects the midi connection between
with the midi connected, the FCB controls them both in stereo, and the
independently address the slave. If you disconnect the midi with the midi
switch, the FCB could them be used to control the master EDP
could switch between the options with a relatively simple solution.
Kim Flint | Looper's Delight
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